This episode features one of the most intense and provocative discussions thus far as I interviewed Jonathan Doe along with Daniel Valient from the collective White Gardenia. Both artists operate within the extreme horror underground, each with their own prolific output of increasingly shocking work, so when Doe released a documentary on White Gardenia - "The Art of Self Harm" - that made me want to invite them both on and dig deeper into their unique worlds.

Again, Proceed With Caution and keep in mind that while Daniel Valient's politics are quite brazen, they do not reflect the politics of Split Your Head or myself. However, this led to a very interesting chat and one that made me want to take a closer look at this devout Christian/Trump supporter who participates in self mutilation for their own art.

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https://filmfreeway.com/danielvalient

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