In this week's episode Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer and Grayson Flatness talk about Spotify's new artist verification system (and it's problems), as well as Grayson's 360 artist creative agency NBHD. The episode also features an interview with Simon and Luke of Chapters Music, who have produced music for Olivia Rodrigo, Madonna, Gabbie Hanna, Carpenters and many more.

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