Canada’s spies have been busy this year. There have been accusations of foreign interference, industrial espionage — and of course the killing of a Sikh activist on Canadian soil. And don’t forget a few looming issues, like whether Canadians can trust TikTok with their data. David Vigneault, the head of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, sits down in a rare interview to talk through it all.

Then, CBC has found itself in the news a few times this year, amid declining revenues, job losses and a pledge by the Conservatives to defund at least part of the Crown corporation. Host Catherine Cullen talks with CBC head Catherine Tait about the president and CEO’s plans to shepherd the public broadcaster through a turbulent time in the media world.

Plus — two journalists talk about their new books chronicling the prime minister.

This episode features the voices of:

• David Vigneault, director of CSIS
• Catherine Tait, president and CEO of the CBC
• Paul Wells, journalist and author 
• Stephen Maher, journalist and author