This episode was recorded live on February 10th, 2024 and is the fourth episode in our series about Shanna Gardner, the daughter of Stampin' Up founders, who has been charged with murder.

Dr John has been reading hundreds of pages of newly released documents in the Jared Bridegan case and just told Lauren this episode is going to be a wild ride!

To read the hundreds of pages of docs for yourself, head to our Patreon account https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime

For full access to Shanna Gardner and Jared Bridegan's divorce documents, including their pre-nup, head to our Patreon account HERE

DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states.

Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.

LAUREN MATTHIAS has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in East Idaho, Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award. She has reported for News Nation and now produces the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

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