Steven Snider, looks deeply into the politics and social engineering behind QAnon.

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[00:00:00] Clip: I forgot how like this, how polarizing that OJ case was anal. I’ve met OJ Simpson on four different occasions in my life. And before the end of the show, I will tell you about each of those occasions.

[00:00:16] Alex Tsakiris: That’s of course the one and only Dave Chappelle from his standup. Special on Netflix, which now he’s paying from Netflix, which is. Kind of interesting, but that’s fits in so well with Dave Chappelle. Cause he’s not just a comedian, he’s the truth.

Teller truth seeker warrior.

And that makes this clip kind of a nice fit for today’s show with the very excellent guy, really like, and respect, even though we disagree all over the place on some of the most important, fundamental issues to me. That is Stephen Snyder, recluse host of the farm podcast and author of some great books.

I’m going to tell you about. But the thing about OJ that Chappelle is talking about. Is.

Is really interesting. In a couple of ways back to Dave.

[00:01:01] Clip: At the time I was 18, I had done a show and then the guy from the club came up and was like, Hey, OJ, Simpson’s here. And he said, he wants to meet you. I said, fuck it. I ran down the steps and OJ was down. There was like, here you go, man. Over you was very good to meet you and you do really good work and I hope good things happen for you in your life.

I was like, man, thanks Mr. Juice standing. Well, I don’t know the nice way to say this is soon to be slain wife, ladies and gentlemen, man, the fuck up. You’re not going to make it through the end of this shit.

[00:01:42] Alex Tsakiris: So I’m really tempted to jump in with some kind of commentary about what Chappelle’s saying there, but I want to relate it back to the show. So here’s a clip from this conversation that Steven and I have about pizza gate pizza gate.

Which is the OJ Simpson murder trial of this episode. Here’s the clip.

[00:02:01] Steven Snider: And this is kind of similar to how you would start a disinformation campaign, , , I mean, honestly, if you were a psychological warfare officer, why wouldn’t you be interested in this kind of stuff?

, historically disinformation usually had some kind of a basis in reality. I mean, that’s what made it really effective, but now we’ve kind of gotten into the whole. Pizza gate era where, you know, I think that this is a disinformation campaign, but I mean, it has almost no basis in reality.

[00:02:27] Alex Tsakiris: Okay. So now we can go back to analyzing the Dave Chappelle clip. Because the reason I think that Dave Chappelle clip is so funny is because we all know. That OJ killed his wife. And then we even know that there’s this racial component Intuit in that the jury was probably influenced by the fact that Rodney king was mauled and almost killed by the LA police and that they use that they played the racial card and all that stuff, but the guy not to play it with as OJ glue, do. He really did the crime, but this crazy mixed up world, that’s how we sort through things. But the thing is we know, oh, GA did it in that’s what makes it funny?

my pushback on Steven in this interview is. Pizza gate is real.