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In this raw and heartfelt episode of Between Sundays, Pastors Tim Zuniga and Billy Haley discuss one of the hardest lessons in leadership: you can’t fix people. As pastors and leaders, it’s easy to develop a “Messiah complex,” thinking that if we just work harder or give more, we can change lives. But the truth is, only Jesus can heal the brokenness people carry. This conversation explores the pain of unmet expectations, the emotional toll of leadership, and the importance of letting go of the fixer mentality. If you’re in ministry—or simply trying to lead well in any capacity—this one’s for you.
Listen in and be reminded: your job is to lead, not to save.
By Billy Haley & Tim Zuniga5
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In this raw and heartfelt episode of Between Sundays, Pastors Tim Zuniga and Billy Haley discuss one of the hardest lessons in leadership: you can’t fix people. As pastors and leaders, it’s easy to develop a “Messiah complex,” thinking that if we just work harder or give more, we can change lives. But the truth is, only Jesus can heal the brokenness people carry. This conversation explores the pain of unmet expectations, the emotional toll of leadership, and the importance of letting go of the fixer mentality. If you’re in ministry—or simply trying to lead well in any capacity—this one’s for you.
Listen in and be reminded: your job is to lead, not to save.

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