GitLab sponsored this podcast.

The struggle is real. The Cloud Native Computing Foundation landscape map has over 1,400 cloud native projects listed on it, over a variety of categories. The total market cap of the cloud native ecosystem is $18.66T, which gives you an idea of the scale of cloud business now. So as companies continue their inevitable migration from legacy IT systems to the new cloud native world, they have a mind-boggling number of choices to make. And it’s not just choices about cloud infrastructure and tools, but also how they run IT projects in the cloud era, and how operators and developers are increasingly working together using the DevOps approach.

In this episode of The New Stack Makers, we discuss these and other struggles of the cloud with two GitLab executives: Brandon Jung, vice president of alliances at GitLab, and Pete Goldberg, director of partnerships at GitLab. Both have extensive experience working in the cloud ecosystem, so they were able to provide insights on both the struggles and the solutions.

Prior to GitLab, Jung worked at Google and Canonical. He’s also currently a Linux Foundation board member, so I asked him what are some of the challenges he’s seeing in the cloud native ecosystem given how popular it’s become?