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 - 00:05 - Christopher is back

 - 00:20 - Never say never about Basquiat

 - 00:48 - It's easy to enable James' bad ideas

 - 01:00 - "Art Off Octagon": Basquiat v Rockwell

 - 01:25 - Catherine loosely introduces Basquiat

 - 01:48 - James seriously describes Rockwell

 - 02:30 - Comparing works, overcoming blindspots, seeking consensus

 - 02:49 - Catherine gets roasted for her first impression of Rockwell's "Glen Canyon Dam" as Cowboy Art!

 - 03:50 - Basquiat's "Beef Ribs Longhorn" actually reads as "cowboy"!

 - 04:41 - Catherine chose specific Basquiat works as foils to James' Rockwell selections

 - 06:48 - Catherine agrees with James' critique, and admits to tuning out anything remotely reminiscent of Cowboy Art

 - 08:10 - Did Rockwell "punk" the Department of Interior with this commissioned piece?

 - 08:40 - Christopher dissects the political undertones of the piece

 - 09:10 - Delving deeper into the paintings negative images and birds of prey

 - 11:12 - Criteria 1: First Impression

 - 11:39 - Criteria 2: Evoke feeling

 - 12:02 - Criteria 3: Use of medium

 - 12:23 - Criteria 4: Representative of time period in which it was created

 - 12:30 - Nobody likes the birds! (Except James, but no one listens to him)

 - 13:20 - Criteria 5: Would you hang this on your wall?

 - 13:45 - Catherine describes Basquiat's "Beef Ribs Longhorn", not rib-eye

 - 15:40 - The words in piece imply "doom"

 - 16:13 - Deconstructing 1980's aliens, butcher shops and the words

 - 17:17 - The cow is sad

 - 18:54 - Catherine sees different themes, James sees no poetic narrative

 - 19:50 - Christopher described how these two works are similar

 - 21:17 - James remains unconvinced

 - 21:23 - Lack of framing evokes rawness

 - 22:15 - The survey says, Catherine and Christopher would hang it on their wall

 - 25:32 - James steps away, Christopher and Catherine decide that continuing this exercise will yield similar results

 - 25:47 - Is comparison fair or necessary?

 - 27:30 - The conclusions remain the same

 - 28:08 - Basquiat's "raw punch" vs Rockwell's focus on detail

 - 28:30 - Basquiat's "Untitled 1982" vs Rockwell's " The Connoisseur"

 - 28:37 - How would Basquiat have evolved?

 - 30:02- "The Connoisseur" is and is not a Jackson Pollock

 - 32:57 - One more. James passionately describes Rockwell's "Lost In Paris" as a "10"

 - 35:50 - Complex emotion vs raw emotion

 - 36:26 - Rockwell's "New Kids In The Neighborhood"

 - 39:40 - Rockwell exits The Octagon

 - 40:20 - Any Basquiat for Catherine's wall

 - 40:59 - "What could have been" with Basquiat?

 - 42:10 - A trio of art nerds

 - 00.03 - Good Morning Christopher

 - 00.26 - James can leave anytime

 - 01:20 - Cleo and Phoenix Cat bake themselves

 - 01:56 - This is not a cat show, it's about art!

 - 02:07 - James insists on discussing "Gene-Michael Basket"

 - 02:56 - Catherine just likes the hair

 - 03:06 - James finds zero resonance in the consistent scribble

 - 04:15 - Christopher relives discovering Basquiat in Venice Beach

 - 04:27 - Basquiat Doc Marten's don't cost millions

 - 05:00 - Christopher discusses Brooklyn graffiti and Phoenix murals

 - 06:05 - SAMO: Same Old Bullshit

 - 07:55 - Tagging walls, developing his style

 - 09:00 - Youthful angst and "Irony of a Negro Policeman"

 - 09:00 - James feels bullied

 - 10:30 - Dadaism explains it all

 - 11:00 - "Self Portrait" 1984, Acrylic and oil stick on paper

 - 12:00 - "Riding With Death" 1988, Acrylic, crayon, canvas

 - 12:37 - Heroine-house field trip

 - 13:25 - Dio de los Muertes and Catherine's skeleton study

 - 14:30 - James remains unconvinced and unimpressed

 - 17:06 - Film "Basquiat", 1996

 - 17:46 - Enveloped into the Factory

 - 18:20 - Warhol, the "King of Marketing"

 - 19:00 - It's celebrity vs the work, benefactors vs "smack schmuck"

 - 19:40 - James remains unconnected to Basquiat's work

 - 20:07 - Sotherby's marketing: "How Jean-Michel Basquiat Turned Art History on Its Head"

 - 20:25 - Christopher admits to being a "heavy doodler"

 - 21:27 - James agrees with Basquiat on painting/sketching continuum

 - 22:06 - James likes the "heads", finally says something nice!

 - 22:50 - Lots of balls in his work

 - 23:45 - Catherine remains "sucked in" after 20 yrs

 - 24:29 - Galleries of New York City vs. James approval

 - 25:30 - Christopher's philosophy on "drug-influenced art"

 - 27:20 - James deconstructs art politics and how artists are "chosen"

 - 29:48 - The calculated wrath of SAMO "Jean-Michel Basquiat and the Birth of SAMO"

 - 31:35 - James scores a "fake it til you make it" point

 - 32:40 - Christopher brings it home with Al Diaz

 - 36:40 - More to discuss on Basquiat, Catherine can't stop

 - Catherine's dog died

 - The ghost of Catherine's dog is haunting their house

 - Banksy-shmaksy

 - "Doom Scroller"

 - Catherine's ass twitches

 - James is writing a screenplay

 - Catherine is the ship

 - Delusions of grandeur

 - Fete de comple

 - Creepy dolls

 - Omega Man

 - I Am Legend

 - Spray-cation (BBC)

 - "Artcaster"

 - The Internet sucks

 - We like Banksy

 - Whimsy

 - Banksy is like a Yeti

 - Graffiti behind plexiglass...

 - Asshole teddybears

 - Stolen Banksy

 - Jean-Michel Basquiat

 - Theater in Quarantine - Joshua William Gelb

 - Mime, dance, theater? Yes.

 - Documentation of the pandemic

 - New York Times has the best web design

 - In the red zone

 - Mask forever

 - How's your ass?

 - The cheek of it: artists celebrate the bottom

 - Is it cute or really terrible?

 - Where's the photocopied butt?

 - Catherine is triggering James. On purpose. And repeatedly.

 - TikTok for all things

 - Dr Kat, Epidemiologist

 - NSCU College of Design

 - Are there still Life Coaches out there?

 - Code Art Rooted In An Unlikely Era: The 1960s

 - Casey Reas http://reas.com

 - Congratulations, you invented the screensaver

 - Sol LeWitt

 - Artspeak

 - Are instructions art?

 - Ansel Adams's process

 - James wins a point

 - A struggle for dominance

 - Forbes? What the hell?

 - White Male Artist Wants To Know If You'll Buy His $HT NFTs.

 - Litteral, canned shit

 - Probably a ferret

 - Gold and shit and Fox News

 - Tucker Carlson IS WMA

 - James doubts that WMA understands ‘intimacy'

 - The gatekeepers are really, really stupid

 - Don't read the comments

 - Rock star painter

 - Gene Simmons

 - "Making art in secret"

 - Gene vs Hunter

 - "Someone needs a punch"

 - Man-Tiger

 - There's no stopping Catherine

 - Can James sell his work for $500k?

 - Hunter Biden in now an "Artist"

 - "Never would have been better"

 - George Berges

 - Gallerists is a dumb and pretentious word

 - Sylvester Stallone's paintings

 - Xeo Chu - Vietnam's Jackson Pollock

 - "Artistic abuse"

 - This is not art

 - William Powhida discusses Hunter's "art"

 - Don't anger the Gallerists Gods

 - To cover a bad spakle job

 - Catherine is getting high, not James

 - Let's ride the Biden name!

 - Art dealers undermine US sanctions on Russia

 - You're not buying Hunter's art, you're buying influence

 - Vomiting on canvas

 - Huner is NOW comfortable calling himself an artist

 - Art is like crypto currency

 - Put Hunter in a corner, or send him to Guantanamo Bay

 - We can't say the word pseudonymously or remember how to say nom de plume

 - May not be illegal, but is totally immoral

 - Privilege

 - Catherine says kudos too many times

 - Walter Shaub on Hunter's art sale "the perfect mechanism for funneling bribes"

 - Is Stephen Colbert listening to our show?

 - James likes painting and money so buy his paintings. For money.

 - Artisanally crafting a Ford

 - Catherine should listen to our podcast

 - Ken Clark

 - Ranked Choice Voting

 - Voter Choice Arizona

 - Phoestivus

 - Hipster Santa

 - Phoestivus Ale

 - Green Guinness

 - Billionaires in Space

 - Whitey on the Moon

 - Catherine's knitted wonders

 - Can Floridians count? (Cyber Ninjas)

 - Partisan Recount

 - Clear Ballot Group

 - Replaying Bosnia

 - Redistricting

 - Terry Goddard

 - Arizona "Re-election"?

 - Al Franken

 - Matt Gaetz

 - Roy Moore

 - Meditation

 - "Full Q"

 - Debunking requires patients

 - Garrett Archer (election tracking)

 - Better slogans

 - Shared connections - we don't trust corporations

 - Justice Scalia - Democracy requires transparency

 - Criteria for redistricting

 - Communities of Interest

 - Competitive districts

 - Smaller districts?

 - Recounting the partisan recount

 - Overpacking the Voting Rights Act districts

 - "Starving the Beast"

 - Modernizing the Tax Code

 - Bill 1516

 - Americans for Puppies and Apple Pie

 - Dark Money in school boards

 - Yassamin Ansari

 - Leave your campsite cleaner than you found it

 - "Click of the Mouse" theory

 - Crazy conspiracies are more fun than real conspiracies

 - Dogs!

 - How many bikes does James have?

 - Infinite bikes

 - Minnesota's horrible winters and horrible summers

 - Catherine doesn't like mosquitoes

 - The Maine mosquitoes are coming for James

 - Deep Woods Off!

 - "Family sized" cereal is a scam

 - James falls for the mountain bike

 - The kind of pain you can tolerate

 - Knitting - A Competitive Sport for Catherine

 - "Hardcoring it"

 - The spa ride ruins Catherine

 - Roadies vs Mountain Bikers

 - The Jenny story

 - James treats everyone like an equestrian

 - Catherine's blue tricycle

 - Catherine rides into the Christmas Tree

 - Bikes are expensive

 - Catherine regrets giving up her Schwinn

 - Bikes aren't gendered

 - Catherine knows neither how many mannequins she has nor why she has so many

 - Gershel Bros used retail fixtures

 - A pregnant mannequin

 - Jungian Archetypes

 - Easley's Fun Shop

 - John Fitzsimmons on Heat Stroke

 - Pinkie

 - Dead toe shoes

 - Buddhism does not justify invisible art

 - Picaso's bull paintings

 - Extended to its illogical conclusion

 - No need for realism after photography?

 - Art is represented of nothing. Well that's a helpful argument

 - Invisible con job

 - Photography is its own abstraction

 - James educates the audience on photographic technique

 - Catherine left her notes at home

 - James's wife gives their son's teacher a migraine

 - A bicycle riding a mannequin

 - Where do mannequins end and humans begin?

 - Getting high to make real estate art

 - Leafly supporting local artist

 - The Artist Tree art gallery / dispensary in LA

 - Rice pudding takes out Catherine's dog down

 - James is trying to care

 - Are chihuahuas actually dogs?

 - Invoking the name of Christ will stop alien abductions

 - Catherine isn't Korean or Jewish, but that's how James sees her

 - CE4 Research Group?

 - Are aliens really just demons?

 - Born-Again Vampires

 - Catherine is wearing a mask

 - James explains plosives and pop filters

 - "Punching the mic"

 - $30 microphone

 - "Midgression"

 - Why would an alien come for you:

 - -  1. You asked for it

 - -  2. You opened the door through being open to new-age thinking

 - -  3. You have no godly cover

 - Original Sin is weird

 - "Am I triggered enough yet?"

 - Moth Man, Marian Apparitions, and Aliens

 - Harbingers

 - Qanon has replaced alien abductions

 - Alex Jones is an alien robot who doesn't quite pass the Uncanny Valley test

 - Law school?

 - No AC in the Pacific North West

 - Point of honor NOT having an AC

 - No "open window" time in Catherine's house

 - The blessed dryness of Phoenix

 - Poor French mom trying to iron all the jeans

 - James gets reported for not wearing an ironed shirt

 - James climate-shames Catherine for driving an SUV

 - Balance your own Chakras

 - Minivan vs SUV

 - Ford Transit Connect

 - Weird import laws on beads and vans

 - Catherine just want's a backup camera

- Ghosts?

- Maybe Somewhat pregnant

- Sleepy Joe seems not so sleepy

- Catherine's haunted college apartment

- "Top-tier ghosting place"

- Movers in college? Princess.

- The ghost is angry that Catherine is leaving

- Alien abductions stoped, we're too busy on our phones to notice

- "I never had a vibe for aliens"

- James's ghost story

- "A fun thing to believe in."

- UFO report

- "Their pilot planes"

- Alien pirates

- Seeded from aliens

- Tesseract

- We don't rate high enough for the aliens to get out and talk to us

- James loves quilts

- James explains Instagram

- Instagram, no one wants to see your fail videos

- "Smaesh"

- Instagram is a visual database of the world

- Doing design research with Instagram

- As terrible as Instagram is, it is still a great portfolio platform

- Trying to Instagram with a Twitter mindset

- Volkswagen Trek edition

- "Homogenize would be the word"

- TikTok wedding photography

- When will the heat drive Catherine out of Phoenix?

- Rumors of an aquifer

- Lawns are dumb

- Embrace your Phoenix

- Stranger Things isn't Korean but is Catherine watching anyway

- Pirate podcast from Costco

- Catherine is just crazy enough to actually do it

- Seoul Market remembers Catherine

- Blah Blah Blah - a traditional Korean side dish

- Flushing Twitter

- Catherine, the retired Twitter star

- "UnTweeting"

- Rewriting your journal

- A closet minimalist

- Sara Cooper is a liar

- Catherine's Twitter Poetry...

- "To go bag" or "Go Bag"? Yes Catherine, there is a difference

- Art is not in the eye of the beholder

- Tim Johnson on Heat Stroke

- Meditative Arts Gallery

- "Psychic or otherwise"

- Lets be honest, First Fridays are kind of half-assed

- ArtLink could be... more optimized

- "On the way to Grand"

- Bashing ArtLink