This week is palliative care week and in this edition of The Conversation hour we hear about the work of Very Special Kids and their role in providing palliative care for children with life-limiting illness. We hear the firsthand experience of a mother who was supported by the charity as well as her family support practitioner.

Also, in this edition, what will Susan Ley's leadership mean for the Liberal party, do we need to create better incentives for international touring acts to choose local supports and how much training do you get as an umpire?