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Join us for an incredibly candid and informative conversation with Audrey Vernick, a passionate advocate and the Director of Patient and Family Advocacy for the Pediatric Epilepsy Surgery Alliance. Audrey shares the powerful 21-year journey of her son, Bennett, who suffered a stroke in utero and was later diagnosed with the catastrophic epilepsy known as Infantile Spasms.
Audrey recounts the emotional process from the difficult labor and early concerns dismissed as normal reflexes, to the terrifying moment she saw his MRI and realized half of his brain was black due to a massive stroke.
This episode is an essential listen for any parent navigating a serious pediatric diagnosis, especially those dealing with seizures. Audrey shares her family's ultimate decision to pursue a hemispherectomy after two years of failed medications, and the immediate, miraculous developmental explosion in her son's language and physical abilities post-surgery.
Key Takeaways and Actionable AdviceDemand a Specialist: If you suspect Infantile Spasms, go to the ER and demand to speak to a neurologist or epileptologist. Request video EEG monitoring.
Video & Log Everything: Record videos of suspicious movements and log details (time, duration, what you observed) to help clinicians with diagnosis and treatment planning.
The Difference Between a Consult and Surgery: A surgical consult is not a surgery. Referring for a pre-surgical workup opens up a new toolbox of solutions and gives you access to a world-renowned team of specialists for a more detailed look at your child's case.
Drug-Resistant Epilepsy (DRE): Epilepsy is considered DRE if a child has uncontrolled seizures after appropriately failing two seizure medications. This increases the risk of SUDEP (Sudden Unexplained Death due to Epilepsy).
Decision-Making: Understanding your partner's decision-making style is crucial when navigating complex medical choices.
Guest: Audrey Vernick, Director of Patient and Family Advocacy at the Pediatric Epilepsy Surgery Alliance.
Organization: Pediatric Epilepsy Surgery Alliance
Website: epilepsysurgeryalliance.org.
Resources: Offers a Parent Support Navigator Program (trained peers), financial aid for travel to a Level Four epilepsy center for pre-surgical workups, webinars, and more.
Infantile Spasms Resource: Audrey also mentions the Infantile Spasms Action Network for resources on recognizing and acting on infantile spasms.
Time Stamp
Description
Key Information
00:00:43
Critical Advice: Surgery Consult vs. Surgery
Audrey shares the core message that a surgery consult is different than a surgery, and there is no harm in seeking a consultation for any diagnosis.
00:01:54
Bennett's Diagnosis and Surgery
Audrey introduces her son, Bennett (21), who had a stroke in utero, infantile spasms, and ultimately a hemispherectomy.
00:04:50
The Early Months: Colic vs. Seizures
Audrey describes the first five months, where unusual movements and fussiness were initially dismissed as normal reflexes and colic by her pediatrician.
00:12:08
Emergency EEG & Stroke Discovery
The night she called a new neurologist, they were admitted for a 48-hour video EEG monitoring. The next day, an MRI revealed a massive stroke in the right hemisphere.
00:14:50
Infantile Spasms: Recognize the Signs
Audrey, as a leader of the PESA, stresses that Infantile Spasms is a medical emergency. She describes the signs: head drop/nod, flexing, and subtle movements that happen in clusters.
00:17:10
Advocacy: How to Get Help
Advice for parents: Take videos, take logs, and at the ER, demand to see a neurologist or epileptologist.
00:22:15
The Surgical Seed is Planted
Bennett's first neurologist mentioned a hemispherectomy when he was only five months old, which her husband immediately dismissed, but planted a "seed" for future research.
00:24:09
Choosing Surgery and the "Elmo Song" Miracle
The family begged for surgery and two days later Bennett had his hemispherectomy. Two weeks later on the plane home, Bennett, whose speech was suppressed, sang the entire Elmo song, signaling the impact the seizures had been having.
00:30:52
Defining Drug-Resistant Epilepsy (DRE)
DRE is when a child has seizures after failing two appropriately dosed medications. DRE is harmful to development and carries the highest risk of SUDEP (Sudden Unexplained Death due to Epilepsy).
00:42:55
Final Message: Trust Yourself
Audrey's final, powerful advice to parents: You are the expert in your own child; trust yourself and use that expertise as a tool on your journey.
Support the Host & Show
If you found value in this conversation, please check out host Katie Taylor's work and community resources:
Join Katie Taylor's Substack for in-depth insights and articles: Join here
Get the SupportSpot App—a helpful tool to support your child through their healthcare journey: Check it out
The Child Life On Call Podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. The content shared in each episode, including stories, discussions, and interviews, is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast. The views and opinions expressed by guests on the Child Life On Call Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Child Life On Call. Child Life On Call does not endorse any specific medical treatments, procedures, or opinions shared in the podcast. If you or your child is experiencing a medical emergency, call 911 or seek immediate medical attention. By listening to this podcast, you acknowledge that Child Life On Call and its affiliates are not responsible for any decisions made based on the information provided.
By Katie Taylor, Certified Child Life Specialist4.9
140140 ratings
Join us for an incredibly candid and informative conversation with Audrey Vernick, a passionate advocate and the Director of Patient and Family Advocacy for the Pediatric Epilepsy Surgery Alliance. Audrey shares the powerful 21-year journey of her son, Bennett, who suffered a stroke in utero and was later diagnosed with the catastrophic epilepsy known as Infantile Spasms.
Audrey recounts the emotional process from the difficult labor and early concerns dismissed as normal reflexes, to the terrifying moment she saw his MRI and realized half of his brain was black due to a massive stroke.
This episode is an essential listen for any parent navigating a serious pediatric diagnosis, especially those dealing with seizures. Audrey shares her family's ultimate decision to pursue a hemispherectomy after two years of failed medications, and the immediate, miraculous developmental explosion in her son's language and physical abilities post-surgery.
Key Takeaways and Actionable AdviceDemand a Specialist: If you suspect Infantile Spasms, go to the ER and demand to speak to a neurologist or epileptologist. Request video EEG monitoring.
Video & Log Everything: Record videos of suspicious movements and log details (time, duration, what you observed) to help clinicians with diagnosis and treatment planning.
The Difference Between a Consult and Surgery: A surgical consult is not a surgery. Referring for a pre-surgical workup opens up a new toolbox of solutions and gives you access to a world-renowned team of specialists for a more detailed look at your child's case.
Drug-Resistant Epilepsy (DRE): Epilepsy is considered DRE if a child has uncontrolled seizures after appropriately failing two seizure medications. This increases the risk of SUDEP (Sudden Unexplained Death due to Epilepsy).
Decision-Making: Understanding your partner's decision-making style is crucial when navigating complex medical choices.
Guest: Audrey Vernick, Director of Patient and Family Advocacy at the Pediatric Epilepsy Surgery Alliance.
Organization: Pediatric Epilepsy Surgery Alliance
Website: epilepsysurgeryalliance.org.
Resources: Offers a Parent Support Navigator Program (trained peers), financial aid for travel to a Level Four epilepsy center for pre-surgical workups, webinars, and more.
Infantile Spasms Resource: Audrey also mentions the Infantile Spasms Action Network for resources on recognizing and acting on infantile spasms.
Time Stamp
Description
Key Information
00:00:43
Critical Advice: Surgery Consult vs. Surgery
Audrey shares the core message that a surgery consult is different than a surgery, and there is no harm in seeking a consultation for any diagnosis.
00:01:54
Bennett's Diagnosis and Surgery
Audrey introduces her son, Bennett (21), who had a stroke in utero, infantile spasms, and ultimately a hemispherectomy.
00:04:50
The Early Months: Colic vs. Seizures
Audrey describes the first five months, where unusual movements and fussiness were initially dismissed as normal reflexes and colic by her pediatrician.
00:12:08
Emergency EEG & Stroke Discovery
The night she called a new neurologist, they were admitted for a 48-hour video EEG monitoring. The next day, an MRI revealed a massive stroke in the right hemisphere.
00:14:50
Infantile Spasms: Recognize the Signs
Audrey, as a leader of the PESA, stresses that Infantile Spasms is a medical emergency. She describes the signs: head drop/nod, flexing, and subtle movements that happen in clusters.
00:17:10
Advocacy: How to Get Help
Advice for parents: Take videos, take logs, and at the ER, demand to see a neurologist or epileptologist.
00:22:15
The Surgical Seed is Planted
Bennett's first neurologist mentioned a hemispherectomy when he was only five months old, which her husband immediately dismissed, but planted a "seed" for future research.
00:24:09
Choosing Surgery and the "Elmo Song" Miracle
The family begged for surgery and two days later Bennett had his hemispherectomy. Two weeks later on the plane home, Bennett, whose speech was suppressed, sang the entire Elmo song, signaling the impact the seizures had been having.
00:30:52
Defining Drug-Resistant Epilepsy (DRE)
DRE is when a child has seizures after failing two appropriately dosed medications. DRE is harmful to development and carries the highest risk of SUDEP (Sudden Unexplained Death due to Epilepsy).
00:42:55
Final Message: Trust Yourself
Audrey's final, powerful advice to parents: You are the expert in your own child; trust yourself and use that expertise as a tool on your journey.
Support the Host & Show
If you found value in this conversation, please check out host Katie Taylor's work and community resources:
Join Katie Taylor's Substack for in-depth insights and articles: Join here
Get the SupportSpot App—a helpful tool to support your child through their healthcare journey: Check it out
The Child Life On Call Podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. The content shared in each episode, including stories, discussions, and interviews, is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking it because of something you heard on this podcast. The views and opinions expressed by guests on the Child Life On Call Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Child Life On Call. Child Life On Call does not endorse any specific medical treatments, procedures, or opinions shared in the podcast. If you or your child is experiencing a medical emergency, call 911 or seek immediate medical attention. By listening to this podcast, you acknowledge that Child Life On Call and its affiliates are not responsible for any decisions made based on the information provided.

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