In this episode of The New Stack Makers, we talk about all this and more with Susanna Kass, who, after 30 years designing, building and operating data centers, is now the data center advisor for the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals Program.

For data centers, it all comes down to stopping what Kass refers to as the “dirty cloud,” which sees most data centers depleting energy, land, and water. Data centers need to make a pledge to achieve carbon neutrality for every kilowatt hour that is consumed, be accountable for the phase out of coal, and transition to a carbon-neutral infrastructure by using and generating renewable energy per KW hour consumed by site.

Kass describes this as using “nature-based technological solutions to protect our earth, resources and the environment.