Stung. For the first time in over 500 episodes Ivan & Red managed to prepare for different 35 minute shows. After then watching the other show, they to a tandem review of two good shows, Prime Video's Swarm created by Janine Nabers and Donald Glover, and the Apple TV+ show The Big Door Prize, created by David West Read and starring Chris O'Dowd.

Also, check out Red & Maggie Tokuda-Hall's podcast, Failure to Adapt, available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or via RSS

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