The Bulwark Podcast

Symone Sanders-Townsend: Don't Say We Didn't Warn You

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Project 2025 sounds mundane, but it would institutionalize Trumpism, eliminate the Department of Education, mass deport 11 million people, and turn the Department of Health and Human Services into the Department of "Life." Plus, more from the mailbag, and Biden finding the sweet spot between Uncle Joe and punching Trump in the face. Symone Sanders-Townsend joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

Symone's interview on Project 2025
MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event in September

Tim's Mount Rushmore of political books:
  • "What It Takes: The Way to the White House"
  • "Losers," by Michael Lewis
  • "Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72"
  • Harry McPherson's "A Political Education"
    • ...more
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