Late 2011, Bashar al-Assad did a lengthy interview with Barbara Walters, in which he explained his perspective on the violence engulfing his country, how he ended up as President, and his plans for the future. It’s a fascinating and disturbing interview, and we play a few selected clips on this episode. At the time, the death toll was around 4000.

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