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"LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE WITH GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. The LIFE WITH GOD means treasuring him above all else. The goal is not to use God, the goal is God. The other four postures use God as a means to an end. Those with an incomplete or tainted view of God either want to use Him or dismiss Him
God is not a device we use or a commodity we consume. God, himself is the focus of our desire. But if we don't have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like we will gravitate to one of the other four postures. Those with a full clear picture of God want nothing less than to be with him. Once we see and understand who and what God truly is, He will cease to be how we acquire our treasure, and become our treasure. Listen in as Tennison & Ginelle begin this compelling discussion.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
"LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE WITH GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. The LIFE WITH GOD means treasuring him above all else. The goal is not to use God, the goal is God. The other four postures use God as a means to an end. Those with an incomplete or tainted view of God either want to use Him or dismiss Him
God is not a device we use or a commodity we consume. God, himself is the focus of our desire. But if we don't have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like we will gravitate to one of the other four postures. Those with a full clear picture of God want nothing less than to be with him. Once we see and understand who and what God truly is, He will cease to be how we acquire our treasure, and become our treasure. Listen in as Tennison & Ginelle begin this compelling discussion.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
“LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE FOR GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. LIFE FOR GOD is the fourth posture that Skye Jethani talks about. The LIFE FOR GOD posture is motivated by a fear of living an insignificant life. The mission or the task becomes the center of the Christian life. Join Tennison and Ginelle as they begin to untangle this very popular stance in the life of christians. If not checked the mission controls almost everything: time, relationships, health, spiritual depth, ethics, and convictions. In advanced stages, missionalism means doing whatever it takes to solve the problem. In its worst iteration, the end always justifies the means. The family goes; health is sacrificed; integrity is jeopardized; God connection is limited. The goal is to do this life WITH God.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
“LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE FROM GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. LIFE FROM GOD is the third posture that Skye Jethani talks about. People that live in this posture believe that God exists to supply what we need or desire. Receiving God’s gifts is the entirety of our relationship with Him. They have reduced God to a Genie to grant is our desires. Living here Feeds into our selfish nature, it cuts off the redemptive purpose of pain, and in our pursuit of distraction by comfort we forget the One who alone is able to deliver us, and we seek lesser things. When this happens we believe that what we want is want God wants for us. We then truly miss out on the good gifts that the Father wants to give us.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
“LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE OVER GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. LIFE OVER GOD dismisses religion as irrational superstition and seeks control by discovering how the world works and then directly implementing the right principles. Living a LIFE OVER GOD means that there is no room or need for God. Our desire to control our environment and mitigate our fears no longer require appeasing God. Instead, we view the universe as a machine that we can understand. This reduces and limits God to a reproducible formula and worst than that you stop looking to a relationship WITH God and look to just discern the reliable principles of God.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
“LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE UNDER GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. LIFE UNDER GOD seeks to control the world through religion; by manipulating God through rituals or morality. It's the idea of living under divine rule and following that rule for the sole purpose of avoiding calamity. So when things go wrong or not as well as others we don't have favor with God or he is mad at us. We live this because we fear being subject to the uncontrollable and the happenstances of life.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
“LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.”
“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”
Join Tennison and Ginelle as they begin their new series Living With God. This is a overview of the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani. In this series they take a look at the 5 postures, or ways Jethani says that we, as humans, relate to God. Under, Over, From, and For. However God created us to live WITH him.
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
Join Tennison and Ginelle as they conclude their conversation with their friend Britton Smith. Britton, his wife Michelle and 3 boys, have been on RVing across the country for the past 5 months connecting with other pastors that are on the same journey he found himself, that he is still on. Moving from Pastor to Pioneer. Britton is the director of Pastors to Pioneer, and there mission is to help pastors move from managing institutions to pioneering movements of disciples and simple churches in their cities.
The Table levels the playing field-it is an equalizer. The Table represents unity and togetherness. The Table brings the feeling and knowing that we are seen and heard! In this episode listen as Britton describes his and his families experiences around many Tables over their five months on the road. Going from hand shakes to hugs, strangers to belonging, friends to family, in a matter of hours.
Britton has been pioneering a simple church and discipleship movement in West Michigan since 2013. Most of that time overlapped with being a senior pastor in a growing traditional church. He now only operates in and shepherds the church that meets in homes. Britton has a passion for helping the church live into all that she is called to be according to the Word. He loves to help pastors in traditional churches see their call from the Word in fresh ways. Britton is married to Michelle, who has a heart for walking with pastors’ spouses. They have three boys who they love watching grow into active participants in the family of God.
For more information about Pastor to Pioneer or to contact Britton Smith, go to: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pastortopioneer
https://www.pastortopioneer.com
[email protected]
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
Join Tennison and Ginelle as they continue their conversation with their friend Britton Smith. Britton, his wife Michelle and 3 boys, have been on RVing across the country for the past 5 months connecting with other pastors that are on the same journey he found himself, that he is still on. Moving from Pastor to Pioneer. Britton is the director of Pastors to Pioneer, and there mission is to help pastors move from managing institutions to pioneering movements of disciples and simple churches in their cities.
In this podcast, listen in as they discuss the journey of the messy middle and the I don't know. This is the new paradigm of disciple making. Letting people see you in "all your glory", the true you and not the polished version we are so accustomed to presenting to the word. Britton talks a little more about his travels and the gift it is to connect to pioneers who are on this journey. He also lets us in on some of the common themes he has been seeing and hearing.
Britton has been pioneering a simple church and discipleship movement in West Michigan since 2013. Most of that time overlapped with being a senior pastor in a growing traditional church. He now only operates in and shepherds the church that meets in homes. Britton has a passion for helping the church live into all that she is called to be according to the Word. He loves to help pastors in traditional churches see their call from the Word in fresh ways. Britton is married to Michelle, who has a heart for walking with pastors’ spouses. They have three boys who they love watching grow into active participants in the family of God.
For more information about Pastor to Pioneer or to contact Britton Smith, go to: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pastortopioneer
https://www.pastortopioneer.com
[email protected]
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
Join Tennison and Ginelle as they begin their conversation with their friend Britton Smith. Britton, his wife Michelle and 3 boys, have been Rving across the country for the past 5 months connecting with other pastors that are on the same journey he found himself, that he is still on. Moving from Pastor to Pioneer. Britton is the director of Pastors to Pioneer, and there mission is to help pastors move from managing institutions to pioneering movements of disciples and simple churches in their cities.
In this podcast, Britton describes his personal journey from Pastor to Pioneer and how this has been the best thing for him and his family. Listen in as he talks about how he is no longer following Jesus because it was his job but because it is his only way of life.
Britton has been pioneering a simple church and discipleship movement in West Michigan since 2013. Most of that time overlapped with being a senior pastor in a growing traditional church. He now only operates in and shepherds the church that meets in homes. Britton has a passion for helping the church live into all that she is called to be according to the Word. He loves to help pastors in traditional churches see their call from the Word in fresh ways. Britton is married to Michelle, who has a heart for walking with pastors’ spouses. They have three boys who they love watching grow into active participants in the family of God.
For more information about Pastor to Pioneer or to contact Britton Smith, go to: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pastortopioneer
https://www.pastortopioneer.com
[email protected]
If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#support
To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call
To start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org
To watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
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