Today’s Daf Yomi page, Yoma 9, teaches us what might, without much exaggeration, be called the Talmud's most urgent lesson: How to have profound disagreements without devolving into tribalism and needless hatred. This conversation between Liel Leibovitz and Jay Michaelson — two radically divergent thinkers who disagree on everything from Israel to American politics is a lesson in how to put this sage wisdom to the test. How do you talk to someone who sees the world in a radically different way? Listen and find out.

You can find the entire unedited conversation here.

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