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What happens when motherhood, burnout, and a deep belief in people-first leadership collide? You build a business that challenges the way nonprofits work from the inside out.
In this episode, Haley Cooper shares how she took her experience in fundraising, leadership, and nonprofit strategy and turned it into a business focused on helping organizations become more connected, sustainable, and human-centered. From launching The Savvy Fundraiser during maternity leave to writing a book, hosting a podcast, and building the Lead With Heart Summit, Haley’s story is a reminder that entrepreneurship can be both deeply personal and powerfully mission-driven.
We also dig into nonprofit burnout, the danger of reactive leadership, why diversified funding matters more than ever, and how boundaries, clarity, and emotional connection can transform both organizations and the people leading them.
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Think you need more followers to grow your business? Not so fast. In this recap episode, we break down our conversation with Megan Eckman and dig into one of the biggest misconceptions in entrepreneurship: that a bigger audience automatically leads to more sales.
Spoiler alert…it doesn’t. We’re sharing real examples (including clients with tens of thousands of followers and zero engagement) to show why audience quality matters more than audience size, and how focusing on the wrong metrics can stall your growth. We also dive into what it takes to build a loyal, engaged audience, from creating two-way conversations to being intentional about where and who you are networking with.
If you’ve ever felt like your marketing “should be working” but isn’t, this episode will help you zoom out, reassess your foundation, and focus on what actually moves the needle.
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This episode references our conversation with Megan Eckman, episode #121 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. You can catch our first episode with Megan #062.
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If you’ve ever thought, “I just need better marketing”… this episode might lovingly call you out. We’re joined by returning guest Megan Eckman, founder of Fat Cap and creator of PDX Spellbound, to talk about the step most entrepreneurs skip and why it’s costing them time, money, and momentum.
Spoiler: it’s not your logo, your website, or your ads. It’s your audience. Megan breaks down why building a fan base before you launch is the difference between crickets… and a stadium full of people ready to buy. We also get into her new subscription-based storytelling business (honestly, we’re obsessed), how she’s monetizing from day one, and why “passive income” is mostly a myth.
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In this response episode, Ashlan and Tory debrief their conversation with returning guest Dusti Arab and reflect on what it really looks like to pivot a business into deeper alignment. They talk about Dusti’s evolution from marketing work into community-centered food growing through Hearth & Hollow, and how that shift was not a random reinvention so much as stepping fully into work that matches her values.
They also unpack why community is more than a buzzword right now, how local action can be a real form of resistance, and why pivots in business often come from paying attention to what keeps pulling at you. Plus: networking in Vegas versus Portland, garden dreams, and the usual media recs.
If you’ve been feeling the nudge to change direction in your business, this episode is a good reminder that a pivot does not mean you failed. It often means you finally listened.
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This episode references our conversation with Dusti Arab, episode #119 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. You can catch our first episode with Dusti #060.
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In this episode, Ashlan and Tory sit down with returning guest Dusti Arab at Sasquatch Media Grounds to talk about what has changed since her last appearance and wow, a lot has changed. Dusti shares how Hearth & Hollow has grown from a small, values-led idea into a business centered on local resiliency, community food access, plant starts, and helping people grow more of their own food.
The conversation explores what it looks like to pivot from service-based marketing work into a product and education-based business, why alignment matters more than forcing yourself to stay in a lane that no longer fits, and how community care can be a real business model. They also get gloriously into the weeds on gardening, food systems, and why tomatoes are basically tiny chaotic invaders.
This episode is a great one for anyone questioning whether a business pivot is “too much,” “too random,” or “too late.” Dusti’s story is a reminder that sometimes the next right thing has been waiting for you all along.
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In this response episode, Ashlan and Victoria debrief their conversation with returning guest Natalia Kay-O’Brien and unpack why community building is a survival strategy right now and not just a “nice-to-have.” They reflect on the ripple effects of 2025 on nonprofit and consulting work, the myth of needing a hero to save everything, and why collaboration beats competition (especially for solo business owners).
They also dig into how “visioning” can be strategic (not fluffy), why slowing down is essential for sustainability, and what nervous system regulation has to do with making better decisions, plus the usual cozy media recs and a little self-aware chaos. As is tradition.
If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the state of the world and trying to keep your business afloat, this episode is both grounding and practical.
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This episode references our conversation with Natalia Kay-O’Brien, episode #117 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
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Natalia Kay-O’Brien returns for her third appearance on Take the Leap to talk about what it really looks like to keep building community while everything feels like it’s on fire (politically, socially, financially… pick a lane). She shares how a tough year, including losing a major retainer, pushed her into deeper R&D and ultimately into creating new, more intentional convenings for nonprofit and social services professionals.
This episode explores the shift from “doing it all alone” to building collaborative, relationship-centered spaces where people can be honest, supported, and strategic, without being talked at by the usual conference circuit.
If you work in nonprofits, social services, or any community-centered work and you’ve been feeling isolated, overwhelmed, or just plain tired, this will feel like a deep exhale.
Note: This episode ends abruptly due to technical issues, but the conversation we did capture is packed with timely insight for the Portland nonprofit space.
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Tune in to our previous conversations with Natalia Kay-O’Brien, episodes #10 and #82 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
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In this recap episode, we unpack our conversation with cybersecurity expert Brady Helkenn and the sobering reality that small businesses are not too small to be targeted. From spoofed emails and AI-generated voice scams to password overload and platform dependency, this conversation is your reminder that tech disasters rarely happen because you’re “bad at tech,” they happen because you’re busy.
We reflect on the practical steps entrepreneurs can take right now to reduce risk, protect client data, and stop running their businesses on autopilot when it comes to security.
If you run a business online (and let’s be honest, you do), this episode will help you think more strategically about cybersecurity, digital risk, and why diversifying your marketing platforms isn’t optional.
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This episode references our conversation with Brady Helkenn, episode #115 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
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Brady Helken returns to the podcast to talk about his new book IT for the 99% and why small business owners need to stop treating tech like an afterthought. From cybersecurity myths and tool sprawl to disaster recovery planning and budgeting for inevitable upgrades, this episode is a masterclass in running a smarter, safer business.
Why listen: If you run a small business (especially solo or with a small team) and think “that won’t happen to me,” this conversation will challenge that mindset and give you practical steps to protect your data, your reputation, and your revenue.
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In this recap episode, Ashlan and Tory debrief their conversation with Liz Ruf of Elizabeth Ruff Consulting and pull out the big entrepreneurship lessons: building a business for freedom, staying adaptable through market shifts, and why mission-driven work is getting hit hard by funding realities. They also talk nonprofit board accountability, simplifying marketing when resources are tight, and why not every entrepreneur needs to scale.
If you’re a small business owner or nonprofit leader trying to do “all the things” (and feeling like you’re losing your mind), this episode will help you refocus on what actually matters, plus how to build a business model that fits your real life.
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This episode references our conversation with Liz Ruf, episode #113 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
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Take the Leap is the podcast where we get real about the rollercoaster that is entrepreneurship and life.
Sure, some folks make running a business look like a walk in the park, but let's be…
Join us your co-hosts, Victoria & Ashlan, as we spill the beans on our own real-life experiences and shine a spotlight on some amazing guests. From the highs of success stories to the lows of epic failures, and hey, we'll even throw in some cringe-worthy, laugh-out-loud embarrassing moments for good measure!
So buckle up and tune in every week for a dose of raw, unfiltered truth about what it's really like to chase your dreams and build a business. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just dipping your toes into the startup world, we've got something for everyone. Even if it's just to make you think, "I'm so glad I didn't do what they did!"