Lizzie and Lyra go into Jennifer Love Hewitt's incredible performance as Maddie and Abigail's Spencer's great guest star spot, even as they discuss some of the issues with the stereotyping in the episode. They also discuss why Maddie Han has been a hero for way longer than some people give her credit for and get serious about Madney as a great ship. Finally, they break down that Buddie goodbye, where the ship is going and what that final shot on Buck means.

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