Talking about Coaching

Talking about Coaching

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  • Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)

    Last episode we talked about why every coach can (even should) be confident about charging for the space they create for their clients. “Just” being there for and with them, offering our undivided attention, helps greatly and often works wonders. However, many coaches are keen to increase their prices but don’t feel confident about it. In this episode our resident coaches Yannick & Siawash are picking up the thread from the conversation we’ve started and talking about the many factors that play into our coaching fees. Offering lots of practical advice and encouragement for coaches who are earning less than £5000/month, we’re talking you through the following list of elements that will (even should) influence and guide the kind of fees you’re charging. We’re confident that by the end of this episode you will feel compelled, and have a lot of solid reasons to increase your current fees. These are: 

    • Client's ROI/the value that the client is walking away with
    • Market rates or what the competition (you care about) charges
    • What you're comfortable with/what you can say or pitch confidently (which can be worked on/improved with practice)
    • What resources the client has access to (salary, assets, savings, wealthy relatives/partners, sponsors, etc.)
    • The cost of acquisition (advertising, time spend networking, writing proposals, tickets to community events, etc)
    • What you've invested in your coach training/journey
    • What you might earn if you weren't a coach or if you'd spend your time doing something different
    • What it takes to get/keep the client really committed to the process
    • How much would you like to/do you need to earn?
    • Coaching experience/skills
    • Time spent outside the coaching room (e.g. tendering a contract, pre-meetings with HR or managers, writing reports or emails, etc.)
    • Expert knowledge, expertise or experience with what the client is struggling with (for coaches who offer guidance, advice or direction)
    • How large is your niche is (the fewer coaches who can do what you do, the more you are worth)

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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    35 min
  • Deep Dive with Georgie Nightingall - The Power of Conversations (and how to create more of them)

    Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches. 

    This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and we're talking to Georgie Nightingall, founder of Trigger Conversations and transformational life coach. I love Georgie's inspired thinking, the way she deeply contemplates and reflects and how she's learned to strike up conversations with strangers (which is a GOLDEN skill when it comes to creating a successful coaching practice. We're exploring a range of topics in this conversation, which, I'm sure, will leave you hungry for more.

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    Continue the conversation over in our Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkingaboutcoaching

    Find more deep dives into coaching at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    Short episodes of Talking about Coaching addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    You can also find us on all major podcast platforms.

    If you'd like to support what we do, please consider a positive review, leave a comment or tell a friend or colleague about this episode.

    You can also become a Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    See Georgie in action with a client at Yannick's Coaching Lab in November 2021. The Lab is a place to be a fly on the wall for a 45min live coaching demo followed by Q&A and conversation with the coach and client and (optional experimental breakouts in triads. If you've missed it, you can re-watch the recording as well as all other available recordings be becoming a member: https://bit.ly/CoachingLabMembership
    See all upcoming Coaching Labs at https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    Support the show

    - Never miss an episode:
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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    2 hr 10 min
  • I want to charge more, but I don't feel confident that I'm worth it. Help! Episode 32

    Lots of coaches would like to charge more for their coaching, but don’t feel confident that they’re worth the money. This can have a variety of reasons such as our own money stories, what the word “sell” means to us, and often a lack of some basic technical skills with regards to how we talk to our clients and how we run consultations. We believe every coach can (even should) be confident about charging for their time and the space they create for their clients. “Just being there” for and with them, offering our undivided attention, helps greatly and often works wonders. However, many coaches are keen to increase their prices but don’t think that their coaching is worth it. In this short episode our resident coaches Yannick,  Siawash and Nicki are laying the groundwork for a longer conversation about how to raise our prices. 


    See also:
    Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
    Episode 05 - How much should I charge for coaching?
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    - Never miss an episode:
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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    19 min
  • Coaching while walking: Is walk&talk a viable approach? Episode 31

    Even before we were hit with a global pandemic, coaching while walking, walk’n’talk, coaching in nature and other forms of being outside of a coaching “room” have sparked our interest. Now, more than ever, coaching clients outside has become relevant to many coaches. That’s why in this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are discussing the benefits and pitfalls of coaching clients while walking. Done well your clients are in their bodies and there’s lots to be picked up on on a somatic level. You’re working shoulder-to-shoulder and this creates a wonderful dynamic. Elements you encounter on your walk can be used for the coaching work or as metaphors or here-and-now moments of learning and insight. Done badly it can seem unprofessional and awkward. So let’s talk about it. If you’ve done some walk-and-talks, we look forward to you sharing your input and experiences on this topic.
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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    14 min
  • I find it really hard to end sessions on time and often go over. What can I do? Episode 30

    A surprising majority of coaches we talk to regularly go over the agreed time for their coaching sessions. At the very least it happens occasionally. In therapy it’s a big no-go! Coaches seem to be a lot more relaxed about this, some even plan going over time into their contract and are more flexible. What we do know is that it affects our relationship and the boundaries we create in some form or another, and so in today’s episode our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat and Nicki Drab are talking about time, boundaries and some really practical advice on how we can end sessions on time, as well as when it may be important to go over.
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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    27 min
  • I find it difficult to challenge my clients. What do I do? - Episode 29

    No decent coach enjoys making their clients uncomfortable. And yet, in order to grow fast, our clients often need to leave their comfort zone and venture into uncharted territory. An important part of the process is for the coach to offer questions and observations that may challenge the client’s beliefs or worldview. Many coaches, especially at the beginning of their journey, shy away from challenging confidently and to offer this in a way that’s productive. In this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss why challenging is important, how it can be done constructively, and we explore various theoretical models and practical metaphors for how this can and should be done in service of the client’s agenda. 
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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    24 min
  • Deep Dive with Sasha van Deurzen Smith: Existential Coaching

    This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person. We're talking to Sasha van Deurzen Smith, existential coach, Programme Leader of the MA in Existential Coaching at the New School for Psychotherapy and Counselling, daughter of Emmy van Deurzen and one of the first coaches with a Masters in Existential Coaching. We've got a lot to talk about and we hope you'll enjoy our philosophical and yet very practical musings on coaching. 

    Join or continue the conversation over on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkingaboutcoaching

    More deep dives into coaching: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    Short episodes of Talking about Coaching addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    You can also find us on all major podcast platforms. 

    If you'd like to support us, please consider a positive review, leaving a comment or telling a coaching colleague about this episode.
     
    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    Support the show

    - Never miss an episode:
    https://rocketsupervision.com/talking-about-coaching/

    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    2 hr 13 min
  • I feel responsible for my client's success. Am I? - Episode 28

    Many coaches carry the weight of feeling responsible for their clients’ success (or lack thereof). We hear about this often in supervision. When it takes longer than planned for their clients to reach their goal or they get frustrated along the way, many coaches ask: Could I have done more? What did I do wrong so that this client doesn’t achieve what they set out to do? What if they ask for their money back or leave me a bad review? Am I good enough? What else can I do to get them to move forward? 

    The weight of taking on too much responsibility can weigh heavily on a coach, and so our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki thought it was important to address this question and talk about the extent to which we share responsibility for our clients’ success or failure. What can and what can we not control or influence? How far are we willing and able to go with our support? What did we promise and contract at the beginning?
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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    29 min
  • How can I structure an effective coaching session? Episode 27

    What is effective coaching? And what does an effective coaching session look like? How would you structure a session for an effective outcome? What’s the process? Much of the answers to these questions depend on individual context, but effective coaching also has many elements in common. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss their takes on effective coaching, how structure provides safety for clients and coaches alike, and why particularly those who are new to coaching will appreciate a clearly structured session to guide them towards an effective outcome. WIth time and maturity, effective coaching may take on many forms and we draw some of these learnings out as we reflect on our fresh, 4-year and decade-long experience, respectively. 

    If you'd like to stay up to date with new episodes, continue the conversation or generally support what we do: 

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    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    26 min
  • Deep Dive with Eric Larson: Coaching, Play and Infinite Games

    This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person. We're talking to Eric Larson, coach of 15 years and with over 10.000 hours on his back. We're exploring the importance of play in coaching both as a technique as well as a rich metaphor for how people approach life. We talk about finite games, infinite games, how to figure out the "rules" and lots more. 

    Join or continue the conversation over on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkingaboutcoaching

    If you want to see Eric in action with a client, as a member of Yannick's Coaching Lab (a place to be a fly on the wall for a 45min live demo, Q&A with the coach and client, followed by experimental breakouts) you can re-watch the recording of his exceptional session including the conversation that ensued. 
    Become a member: https://bit.ly/CoachingLabMembership
    Future Coaching Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs

    More deep dives into coaching: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    Short episodes of Talking about Coaching addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    You can also find us on all major podcast platforms. 

    If you'd like to support us, please consider a positive review, leaving a comment or telling a coaching colleague about this episode.
     
    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    Support the show

    - Never miss an episode:
    https://rocketsupervision.com/talking-about-coaching/

    - Yannick's Coaching Nuggets: https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets

    - Free Starter Kit for new coaches: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/

    - More deep dives at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite

    - Short episodes of TaC addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching

    - Support what we do with a positive review, a comment or by telling a friend or colleague about this episode.

    - Watch COACHING DEMOS from many of our guests in Yannick's Lab. 

    • Membership: https://gocoachinglab.com/
    • Upcoming Labs: https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs
    • FREE taster sessions: https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-lab-coaching-sessions/ 

    Thanks for being a coach. You're making the world a better place!

    2 hr 21 min

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Does what it says on the tin: We talk about coaching. We, that is Yannick, Siwash and Nicki. We love coaching, collectively got a tonne of experience, knowledge and charm; and we all felt it was…