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August 16 Bills Preseason Opener Instant Reaction - That Was Kinda Sexy
The Buffalo Bills opened the preseason with a 29–14 win over the Carolina Panthers, and Patrick Moran is live shortly after the final whistle with his biggest takeaways. While nobody should plan the Super Bowl parade after one exhibition game, Buffalo’s new-look offense delivered plenty of encouraging signs under head coach Joe Brady.
Josh Allen and the starting offense attacked downfield, with Khalil Shakir and DJ Moore making an immediate impact. Moore looked like the reliable, physical receiving threat Buffalo lacked last season, while Keon Coleman caught the first touchdown in the new Highmark Stadium. On defense, Deone Walker continued to flash star potential with a disruptive performance that included a sack and multiple plays near the line of scrimmage.
Patrick also breaks down the players who helped their roster chances, including Jordan Hancock, Jalen Kilgore, Mike Danna, Javon Solomon and Kanai Walker. He examines the backup quarterback competition, the battle at left guard, Buffalo’s punt-return options and the crowded races at cornerback, safety, linebacker, running back and along the offensive line.
It wasn’t all positive. The Bills committed nine penalties for 98 yards, the offensive tackles struggled in pass protection and Tyler Bass missed an early field goal before recovering. Patrick also discusses difficult outings for Jude Bowery, Chase Lundt, Toriano Pride Jr. and Geno Stone, plus why Ty Johnson’s absence could affect the running back picture after strong performances from Ian Wheeler and Frank Gore Jr.
Key Takeaways
Buffalo’s starting offense showed a more aggressive, downfield passing approach, producing three completions of at least 20 yards during its first two drives.
DJ Moore made an immediate impression with his separation, reliable hands and willingness to play physically, while Khalil Shakir and Keon Coleman also contributed.
Deone Walker looked dominant and reinforced the belief that he could develop into a star on Buffalo’s defensive front.
Several depth players improved their roster cases, including Jordan Hancock, Jalen Kilgore, Mike Danna, Javon Solomon and Kanai Walker.
Penalties and pass protection were the biggest concerns, with Buffalo finishing with nine penalties for 98 yards and several offensive tackles enduring rough performances.
Also Discussed
Injury updates on Max Hairston, Cole Bishop, Connor McGovern, Ty Johnson and other inactive Bills
Joe Brady’s decision to receive the opening kickoff and establish an aggressive tone
Keon Coleman’s projected role and Buffalo’s punt-return competition
Whether the Bills still need to pursue a major defensive tackle addition
The left guard battle and the competition for backup center
Dorian Williams’ competition at linebacker
Kyle Allen’s strong performance in the QB2 race
Ray Davis, Ian Wheeler, Frank Gore Jr. and the running back depth chart
Damar Hamlin versus Geno Stone in the safety competition
The atmosphere and first preseason game at the new Highmark Stadium
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1 hr 7 min
August 14 The Preseason Means The World To These Six Bills
The Buffalo Bills’ preseason opener against the Carolina Panthers may not mean much for established starters, but it could be pivotal for several players fighting for roster spots, starting jobs and game-day roles. Patrick Moran breaks down seven Bills with the most to gain—or lose—over the next three weeks, including position battles at linebacker, cornerback, safety, guard, swing tackle, backup quarterback and fullback.
Patrick also explains why he supports Joe Brady’s decision to play healthy starters in the first game at the new Highmark Stadium, shares the latest injury updates and previews expanded Buffalo Sabres coverage coming to Talking Buffalo.
Key Takeaways
Keonta Jenkins has a legitimate roster opportunity. His defensive and special-teams performance could determine whether Buffalo keeps four or five off-ball linebackers, with Joe Andreessen currently listed ahead of him on the depth chart.
Kani Walker remains an intriguing cornerback prospect. Although a lower-body injury is expected to keep him out of the preseason opener, his strong training camp could put him ahead of Toriano Pride Jr. and make him difficult to stash on the practice squad.
Jalon Kilgore could reshape the safety room. A strong preseason from the fifth-round rookie may allow Buffalo to keep only four true safeties, potentially leaving Damar Hamlin and Geno Stone competing for one position.
The offensive line still has two meaningful battles. Austin Corbett and Alec Anderson are competing for the starting left guard job, while Tylan Grable and rookie Jude Bowry are battling to become Buffalo’s primary swing tackle.
Shane Buechele has a chance to win the backup quarterback role. Patrick believes Buechele has shown more upside than Kyle Allen and should earn the QB2 job if he clearly outperforms him during the preseason.
Jackson Acker is the wild card. The undrafted fullback has shown quickness, dependable hands and growing offensive involvement, but special-teams production will be essential if he is going to beat out Ben VanSumeren.
Also Discussed
Why preseason football matters far more to roster-bubble players than established starters
Joe Brady’s plan to play healthy starters against Carolina
The importance of getting comfortable inside the new Highmark Stadium
Lower-body injuries affecting Connor McGovern, Ty Johnson, Skyler Bell, C.J. Gardner-Johnson, Cole Bishop, Maxwell Hairston and Kani Walker
Jason Pominville and Thomas Vanek entering the Buffalo Sabres Hall of Fame
Expanded Sabres coverage and live postgame reaction shows coming to Talking Buffalo
A planned live reaction show following the Bills–Panthers preseason opener
An upcoming Talking Buffalo recording at the Bills Mafia Babes event
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42 min
August 13Bills Summer Studs & Duds So Far (Part 2)
Patrick Moran is joined by Matt Warren of Buffalo Rumblings and SB Nation to evaluate the biggest Buffalo Bills studs and duds of 2026 training camp in the second of a two part conversation in addition to discussing Matt's polarizing latest article on the best quarterback of the 2020's so far.
The episode begins with a spirited debate over the NFL’s All-Decade quarterback race. Patrick and Matt compare Josh Allen with Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Matthew Stafford, examining regular-season production, playoff performances, MVP awards and Super Bowl success. While Mahomes currently has the strongest résumé, Allen’s statistics—and his ability to elevate Buffalo in the postseason—make the discussion far closer than some fans acknowledge.
The conversation then shifts to Buffalo Bills training camp, where several rookies, veterans and roster-bubble players have helped or hurt their standing.
Key Takeaways
Rookie offensive tackle Jude Bowry has emerged as a potential swing tackle and possible long-term option behind Dion Dawkins.

Michael Hoecht has looked remarkably strong in his return from a torn Achilles and appears positioned to contribute early in the season.

Rookie receiver Skyler Bell has flashed impressive speed but remains a developmental prospect who must improve his route recognition, ball tracking and overall receiving skills.

Jordan Hancock, Dee Alford and Landon Jackson have strengthened their roster positions with encouraging performances.

Backup quarterback Kyle Allen has struggled significantly, creating legitimate concerns about Buffalo’s ability to survive even a short Josh Allen absence.
Additional Players Discussed
Patrick and Matt evaluate Mike Danna’s uncertain roster outlook, Zion Logue’s quiet summer, the offensive-line competition involving Alec Anderson and Austin Corbett, and TJ Parker’s underwhelming—but far from disastrous—start to his first NFL training camp.
They also explain why fans should remain patient with Parker. Young pass rushers frequently need time to develop additional moves and adjust to NFL competition before becoming consistent contributors.
The episode concludes with a preview of the Buffalo Bills’ preseason opener against the Carolina Panthers. With a new defensive scheme and a new home-field environment, Patrick and Matt support giving the starters some preseason work—provided Buffalo can escape the game without significant injuries.
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45 min
August 12Bills Summer Studs & Duds So Far (Part 1)
Patrick Moran is joined by Matt Warren of Buffalo Rumblings and SB Nation to evaluate the biggest Buffalo Bills studs and duds of 2026 training camp in the first of a two part conversation.
Before diving into the roster, Patrick and Matt share their impressions of the new Highmark Stadium following the Return of the Blue & Red practice. They discuss the stadium’s intimate atmosphere, seating concerns, video boards, concessions and why much of the online criticism may be overblown.
On the field, the Bills’ revamped passing attack has generated plenty of excitement. DJ Moore already looks like a legitimate No. 1 receiver, displaying strong chemistry with Josh Allen and the ability to make contested catches. Healthy versions of Josh Palmer and Dalton Kincaid have also stood out.
The outlook is less encouraging at cornerback and safety. Max Hairston, rookie Davison Igbinosun and Cole Bishop have experienced uneven summers, while injuries throughout Buffalo’s secondary have created additional uncertainty. Patrick and Matt explain why the defense may need time to find its footing once the regular season begins.
Key Takeaways
DJ Moore looks like the real deal, emerging as Josh Allen’s potential go-to target in critical situations.

Josh Palmer appears healthy and productive, strengthening his position among Buffalo’s top four wide receivers.

Dalton Kincaid continues to make difficult catches look effortless, with durability remaining the biggest question.

Buffalo’s second cornerback position is a concern, as Max Hairston and Davison Igbinosun have yet to separate themselves.

Cole Bishop has looked rusty, but his adjustment to a significantly different defensive system provides important context.

The new Highmark Stadium experience was largely positive, despite online criticism concerning sightlines, concessions and the video boards.
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44 min
August 11Projecting the Buffalo Bills’ 2026 Rookie Roles
Patrick Moran evaluates the Buffalo Bills’ entire 2026 rookie class following eight training camp practices. Which rookies are ready to contribute immediately, who needs more development and which undrafted players could force their way onto the final roster?
Patrick explains why second-round edge rusher T.J. Parker has experienced a quiet summer and could begin the season fourth in the defensive-end rotation. He also examines the uneven camp of cornerback Davison Igbinosun, whose physical coverage ability comes with concerns about penalties and consistency.
Among the most encouraging rookies, offensive tackle Jude Bowry has emerged as a potential swing tackle, while linebacker Kaleb Elarms-Orr has looked capable of competing for a starting role. Patrick believes Elarms-Orr could ultimately become the defining player from Buffalo’s 2026 draft class.
The episode also covers the development of wide receiver Skyler Bell, the long-term potential of safety Jalon Kilgore and the projected roles of Zane Durant, Toriano Pride Jr., Tommy Doman Jr. and Ar’maj Reed-Adams. Undrafted rookies Kani Walker and Jackson Acker are also discussed as players facing important preseason roster battles.
Patrick begins the show by revisiting his experience at the new Highmark Stadium and explaining why he’s choosing to reserve judgment on reported seating concerns until more information becomes available.
Key Takeaways
T.J. Parker currently projects as Buffalo’s fourth defensive end and a rotational contributor.

Davison Igbinosun possesses impressive physical tools but may not be ready to start immediately.

Jude Bowry has positioned himself to become the Bills’ primary swing tackle.

Kaleb Elarms-Orr has been the most impressive rookie and could earn a starting defensive role.

Kani Walker has emerged as a legitimate candidate to make the 53-man roster after signing as an undrafted free agent.
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43 min
August 10Do The Bills Extend Too Many Players? (Plus, Highmark Stadium Firsthand Takeaways)
Patrick Moran is joined by Joe from Queens for a lively edition of Talking Buffalo featuring strong opinions, spirited arguments and plenty of Buffalo Bills discussion.
Patrick shares his firsthand impressions from his first visit to the new Highmark Stadium. He breaks down the expanded concourses, Buffalo-themed gathering areas, concessions, sightlines and overall atmosphere. He also addresses concerns surrounding obstructed seats, exposure to winter weather, bathroom access in the upper level and the Bills’ new uniforms.
The conversation then shifts to O’Cyrus Torrence’s four-year contract extension. Patrick and Joe debate whether Buffalo’s commitment to maintaining continuity along the offensive line justifies the investment—and whether Brandon Beane has become too willing to extend the team’s homegrown players.
They also examine why the Bills have yet to reach a Super Bowl during the Josh Allen era. Is Sean McDermott’s postseason coaching the primary problem, or has Buffalo’s roster-building strategy prevented the team from adding enough elite talent to finally get over the hump?
Key Takeaways
The new Highmark Stadium delivers a significantly upgraded fan experience, with spacious gathering areas and numerous tributes to Buffalo neighborhoods.

Open-air concourses, limited upper-level bathroom access and potentially obstructed views could become legitimate concerns for some fans.

Patrick strongly dislikes the Bills’ new uniforms, especially the difficult-to-read jersey numbers.

O’Cyrus Torrence’s extension reflects Buffalo’s commitment to offensive-line continuity and protecting Josh Allen.

Patrick and Joe disagree over whether Sean McDermott’s playoff failures or Brandon Beane’s roster-building philosophy deserves more blame for Buffalo’s postseason shortcomings.
Also Discussed
The value of extending productive draft picks before their prices increase

Buffalo’s recent history of retaining homegrown players

The importance of adding elite talent instead of settling for roster depth

Training-camp hype and why preseason narratives should be treated cautiously

Early expectations for Skyler Bell, TJ Sanders and the Bills’ rookie class
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1 hr 39 min
August 07Bills Camp Day 6: The Keon Condundrum Continues
Patrick Moran is joined by broadcaster Steve Berman to break down the biggest developments from the Buffalo Bills’ second-to-last training camp practice at St. John Fisher University.
The conversation begins with encouraging injury news as C.J. Gardner-Johnson returns to full participation much sooner than expected. Patrick explains why Gardner-Johnson’s versatility, athleticism, communication and edge make him one of the most important players on Buffalo’s defense.
The spotlight then turns to Keon Coleman’s frustrating inconsistency. Coleman produced several impressive catches and showed signs of improved route running, but another costly drop raised questions about whether Josh Allen and the Bills can trust him in critical situations. Despite the concerns, Coleman continues to receive extensive first-team work and remains firmly ahead of rookie Skyler Bell.
Patrick and Steve also discuss Tyler Bass returning to kicking duties, the developing cornerback situation and a less-than-encouraging camp from Max Hairston. IGB received a late opportunity with the starting defense and could potentially turn the expected competition into a legitimate battle.
Additional observations include strong practices from Buffalo’s defensive tackles, Jude Bowry emerging in the swing-tackle competition, Josh Palmer quietly enjoying an excellent camp and Mitchell Trubisky receiving second-team quarterback reps ahead of Kyle Allen.
Key Takeaways
C.J. Gardner-Johnson’s rapid return is excellent news for a defense that lacks a comparable replacement at safety.

Keon Coleman looks improved physically and as a route runner, but his recurring drops continue to create major trust concerns.

Max Hairston has experienced an uneven camp, potentially leaving an opening for IGB.

Josh Palmer has quietly been one of Buffalo’s most consistent and productive offensive players.

Buffalo’s biggest unanswered questions remain its pass rush and ability to hold up at cornerback..
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1 hr 3 min
August 06 Bills Opinions That Have Already Changed Since Camp Started
On this episode of Talking Buffalo, Patrick Moran is joined by Matt Warren of SB Nation to discuss among other topics, several opinions they had about the Buffalo Bills coming into training camp that have to some extent at least changed over the past week or so.
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57 min
August 05 Joe Marino on Josh Allen, DJ Moore and Buffalo’s Biggest Camp Storylines
Patrick Moran is joined live at Sonny Red’s by Locked On Bills host Joe Marino for a detailed look at the first five practices of Buffalo Bills training camp. Joe explains why seeing camp in person is essential to his evaluation process and shares what has stood out as the team begins taking shape.
The biggest story is DJ Moore, whose early chemistry with Josh Allen has been impossible to miss. Moore’s strength, route running, ball skills and ability to win through contact have made him one of the best players on the field. Patrick and Joe discuss how his presence could stabilize Buffalo’s passing attack while creating better opportunities for Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid and the rest of the offense.
The conversation also turns to Buffalo’s young defensive talent. Jalen Kilgore has flashed impressive ball skills while transitioning from slot corner to deep safety, and several Day 3 draft picks are already making a case for future roles. They examine the early performances of Kilgore, Jordan Hancock, Landon Jackson, Dee Alford, Kenny Walker and other players fighting for snaps.
Not every early development has been encouraging. Joe breaks down the limitations showing up in press and off coverage for one young corner, while Skyler Bell’s ball tracking remains a concern despite his polished route running and speed. The backup quarterback situation also raises questions about how fairly Buffalo’s reserve receivers can be evaluated.
Finally, Patrick and Joe discuss the strange absence of Tyler Bass from public kicking periods, the importance of C.J. Gardner-Johnson to the new-look defense, the increasingly crowded AFC contender field and the emotion surrounding the Bills’ new stadium.
Key Takeaways
DJ Moore looks like the real deal. His strength, veteran polish and immediate connection with Josh Allen could make Buffalo’s passing game more explosive and easier to operate.
Khalil Shakir should not be overlooked. Moore’s arrival may allow Shakir to run a more varied route tree and produce beyond the unusually short targets he received last season.
Buffalo’s Day 3 rookies are creating early optimism. Jalen Kilgore’s range and ball skills stand out, while multiple late-round picks appear capable of earning legitimate roles.
C.J. Gardner-Johnson brings an edge the defense needs. His playmaking ability, energy and personality make him difficult to replace, even with experienced depth behind him.
The Tyler Bass situation is becoming a camp mystery. After five practices without a public kick, the team’s explanation has done little to quiet concerns about his health, confidence or readiness.
Backup quarterback remains a potential weakness. Inconsistent throws behind Josh Allen make it harder to evaluate receivers competing at the bottom of the roster.
The AFC has become deeper. Kansas City, Baltimore and Cincinnati remain threats, but young teams such as Houston, Denver, Jacksonville and New England could make the playoff path even more difficult.
Main Discussion Points
Why Joe Marino values firsthand training-camp evaluation and his connection with Bills Mafia
C.J. Gardner-Johnson’s injury outlook, leadership and importance to Buffalo’s defense
Jalen Kilgore’s transition to safety and Jordan Hancock’s move to the slot
DJ Moore’s dominant start and developing chemistry with Josh Allen
How Moore can unlock more from Khalil Shakir and the entire Bills passing attack
Early impressions of Buffalo’s Day 3 rookie class
Landon Jackson’s fit in the new defensive front and Dee Alford’s potential in the slot
Young defensive backs competing for depth roles, including Kenny Walker
Skyler Bell’s route-running talent versus concerns about drops and vertical ball tracking
Buffalo’s backup quarterback problem and its effect on roster evaluation
Why Tyler Bass has yet to kick publicly during camp
The deepest threats to Buffalo in a crowded AFC
Joe’s excitement about entering the Bills’ new stadium for the Blue & Red practice
You can follow Joe on Twitter @TheJoeMarino, listen to the Locked On Bills podcast wherever podcasts are heard and/or watch it on the Locked on Bills YouTube channel.
Special shout out to Sonny Red’s for being an awesome host and supporter of this show. Make sure you stop up there (1841 Abbott Road) if you haven’t already. Some of the best wings and literally anywhere in town!
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56 min
August 04Bills Day 4 Camp Observations: Keon, Hoecht & Two Rookies Shine
Patrick Moran shares his firsthand observations from Day 4 of Buffalo Bills training camp at St. John Fisher University. Despite another rain-soaked practice, the Bills completed an extensive red-zone session featuring encouraging performances from Keon Coleman, Dalton Kincaid, James Cook and several rookies.
Patrick also examines the developing position battles, concerns surrounding the backup quarterbacks, the safety rotation following C.J. Gardner-Johnson’s injury and which players helped or hurt their stock.
Key Takeaways
Keon Coleman delivered his best practice of camp, catching everything thrown his way and beating Cole Bishop for a touchdown.

Dalton Kincaid continued his excellent start to camp and avoided a potentially serious injury scare.

James Cook appears headed for a larger role, particularly as a receiver out of the backfield.

Several rookies flashed encouraging potential, including the Bills’ second-round cornerback, a fourth-round linebacker and offensive tackle Jude Bowry.

The backup quarterback situation remains concerning, with Shane Buechele currently looking more reliable than Kyle Allen.

Damar Hamlin and Geno Stone rotated with the starting defense following C.J. Gardner-Johnson’s injury.

Michael Hoecht looks surprisingly strong in his recovery from a torn Achilles and could be ready for Week 1.
Full Episode Notes
Another Rain-Soaked Practice
Day 4 was dominated by miserable weather conditions. Three of Buffalo’s first four training camp practices have now been affected by rain, with Monday featuring steady precipitation, wind and unusually cool temperatures.
The weather created a difficult experience for fans and forced the Bills to exercise caution. Players were reportedly instructed to operate below full speed at various points to reduce the risk of injuries on the wet field.
The practice focused almost entirely on red-zone work, with most team periods taking place inside the 10-yard line. That eliminated opportunities for long passes, but it still produced several notable performances and position-battle developments.
Keon Coleman Has His Best Day of Camp
Coleman delivered what Patrick considered his best performance through the first four practices.
His biggest play came when he beat safety Cole Bishop by a step and caught a well-placed Josh Allen pass for a touchdown. Coleman also caught every catchable ball thrown in his direction, displayed dependable hands and looked sharp during individual receiver drills.
His routes appeared cleaner, and he showed encouraging quickness while receiving some work from inside alignments. Coleman’s blocking ability could also keep him on the field in one- and two-receiver formations, even if his receiving statistics do not make a dramatic jump.
The performance does not guarantee a breakout season, but Coleman looked like a reliable, physical receiver capable of contributing in several different ways.
Dalton Kincaid Continues His Strong Camp
Kincaid briefly created concern when he remained on the ground following a play and required attention from the training staff. He eventually returned to the offense, and it was later revealed that he had simply taken an accidental knee to a sensitive area.
Outside of that scare, Kincaid enjoyed another excellent practice. He caught a touchdown and continued to display the quickness, agility and soft hands that have stood out throughout camp.
Kincaid did drop one pass during an individual drill, but several players struggled to secure the wet football. Overall, he has put together four encouraging practices and looks healthy after dealing with knee problems previously.
Dawson Knox also had a productive day as Buffalo’s tight ends continued to make an impact in the red zone.
James Cook’s Role Could Become Even Bigger
One of the most important developments through four practices has been the increased involvement of Buffalo’s running backs in the passing game.
Cook caught a touchdown on a route out of the backfield and appears positioned to receive more opportunities as a receiver. Ty Johnson has also been involved, with Ray Davis seeing some passing-game work to a lesser extent.
Patrick believes Joe Brady views Cook as a legitimate offensive star and could increase his snap percentage, receiving targets and overall workload. After leading the NFL in rushing last season, Cook may be given an opportunity to become an even more complete offensive weapon.
For fantasy football players, Cook’s potential receiving volume makes him worthy of consideration among the top running backs available.
Encouraging Progress From the Rookie Cornerback
The Bills’ second-round rookie cornerback entered Monday without having made a significant push in the competition with Max Hairston. Hairston and Christian Benford remain the clear starting outside corners, and there has not yet been a legitimate battle for Hairston’s job.
However, the rookie produced his best practice of camp Monday. His length, athleticism and ability to stay attached to receivers were much more noticeable during the condensed red-zone work.
He still needs to prove that he can consistently run with receivers across the field, but this was an encouraging step after a relatively quiet opening three practices.
Rookie Linebacker Looks the Part
Buffalo’s fourth-round rookie linebacker continued to make a strong physical impression.
He already looks like an NFL linebacker and has displayed an intense, businesslike approach. He consistently finds himself around the football, hits with force during tackling drills and has stayed after practice to complete additional work.
That does not mean the rookie should immediately be declared the starter. Dorian Williams returned to a heavier workload and also performed well. With Williams getting closer to full strength, Buffalo could have a legitimate linebacker competition during the remaining camp practices.
Ray Davis Joins the Punt-Return Competition
Davis received his first opportunities catching punts during Monday’s special-teams period.
After leading the NFL in kickoff-return average last season, adding punt-return duties would increase his value and help the Bills avoid using a roster spot on a return specialist. Mecole Hardman and Keon Coleman also remain involved in the competition.
Hardman has received some first-team offensive snaps, but keeping him primarily to return punts might not represent the best use of a roster spot. Coleman appears to be a leading candidate, but Davis is now an intriguing alternative.
Safety Competition Following C.J. Gardner-Johnson’s Injury
With Gardner-Johnson sidelined for an undetermined period, Hamlin and Stone rotated alongside the starting defense.
Hamlin received the first opportunity before Stone took over during the following period. That suggests Buffalo could have a legitimate competition for the starting job if Gardner-Johnson misses significant time.
Stone offers better athleticism and coverage ability, while Hamlin is fundamentally sound, physical and dependable as a tackler. Based on the order of Monday’s rotation, Hamlin may currently have a slight advantage.
Jalen Kilgore Remains With the Third Team
Kilgore has been one of the most impressive young players through the opening days of camp. The fifth-round safety recorded multiple pass breakups and a diving interception during the first three practices.
Patrick expected Kilgore to receive more work following Gardner-Johnson’s injury, but he remained with the third-team defense. Sam Franklin continued to receive opportunities ahead of him despite struggling in coverage against Kincaid and Skyy Moore.
Franklin’s special-teams value is established, but his upside as a defensive safety appears limited. Kilgore may need additional development before facing starting-caliber receivers, although his early performance has earned him a chance to move up the depth chart.
Offensive-Line Winners and Losers
The competition between Austin Corbett and Alec Anderson continued, with both players rotating at guard. Corbett received the first starting opportunity Monday but struggled during several pass-rush repetitions.
TJ Sanders and Landon Jackson both beat Corbett, with Sanders producing multiple impressive rushes.
Rookie tackle Jude Bowry handled himself well in one-on-one pass-protection drills and could be gaining an advantage in the swing-tackle competition. Tylan Grable struggled and also received work at guard, suggesting Buffalo may be evaluating him at multiple positions.
Michael Hoecht Looks Ready to Contribute
Hoecht was one of the day’s most encouraging stories.
Despite recovering from a torn Achilles, he participated fully and produced strong pass-rush repetitions. He beat both Bowry and Grable during individual work and received extensive team snaps behind the starting edge rushers.
Hoecht does not look like a player still working his way back from a major injury. If he remains healthy and continues progressing, Patrick believes it would now be more surprising if he were unavailable for Week 1.
Backup Quarterback Concerns
Kyle Allen continued to struggle with accuracy and decision-making, including during drills without defenders. His performance through four practices has created legitimate concerns about Buffalo’s backup quarterback situation.
Buechele, meanwhile, enjoyed a better practice and delivered a well-thrown touchdown pass to Skyy Moore. If Buffalo is conducting a genuine competition for the No. 2 job, Buechele appears to be ahead—and possibly by a significant margin.
The Bills may still prefer Allen as the veteran backup while attempting to move Buechele through waivers and onto the practice squad. Based strictly on camp performance, however, Buechele has been the better quarterback.
Other Players and Battles to Watch
Seventh-round cornerback Dorian Strong Jr. surrendered multiple red-zone touchdowns and has experienced an inconsistent start to camp. He remains in a competition for the fourth boundary-corner position, but Buffalo could eventually add a veteran and attempt to place its younger developmental corners on the practice squad.
TJ Sanders had an encouraging day as a pass rusher, while Skyy Moore continued to make plays with the reserve offense.
Overall Camp Assessment
The first four practices have produced several encouraging individual performances, but camp has lacked memorable or explosive moments. The poor weather, absence of full pads and cautious practice tempo have all contributed to a relatively uneventful opening stretch.
Kincaid, Josh Palmer and Cook have been among the most consistent offensive performers. Kilgore and several other rookies have also generated optimism.
There has not yet been a dramatic difference between a Joe Brady-led camp and the practices previously conducted under Sean McDermott. That could begin to change once the Bills move into full pads and the evaluation of the offensive line and defensive front becomes more meaningful.
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