Talking with Painters

Talking with Painters

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  • Ep 74: The Archibald

    Here’s your guide to the paintings of the 13 podcast guests whose works were shortlisted in the 2019 Archibald prize. Go to episodes 72 and 73 for the Wynne and Sulman guides!

    Click here for an overview of how to use this guide

    Click here for images of the Archibald Prize finalists

    Click here to see the gallery map below if you are looking at this on your podcast app.

    Feature Photo: ‘Lindy Lee’, (detail), oil on canvas, 182.5 x 152cm, Tony Costa, winner of Archibald prize 2019

    Click on the artist’s name below to go to their podcast episode and see the video.

    The time marking shows where the artist’s work is mentioned in the episode and the number in brackets is the number of the work in the AGNSW.

    1:25___ Jude Rae (41)

    3:35___ Jonathan Dalton (14)

    6:40___Prudence Flint (22)

    9:38___Tony Costa (winner) (13)

    13:05___Blak Douglas (18)

    15:50___Paul Ryan (43)

    18:13___Marc Etherington (20)

    21.11___Loribelle Spirovski (44)

    23:35___Laura Jones (27)

    25:10___ Vanessa Stockard (45)

    27:54___Natasha Bieniek (5)

    29:51___ Natasha Walsh (49)

    32:45___Euan Macleod (34)

    36 min
  • Ep 73: The Wynne

    Here’s your guide to the paintings of the seven podcast guests whose works were shortlisted in the 2019 Wynne prize. Go to episodes 72 and 74 for the Sulman and Archibald guides!

    Click the play button underneath the photo to hear the podcast episode and scroll down for video of the Wynne winner Sylvia Ken.

    Click here for an overview of how to use this guide

    Click here for images of the paintings in the Wynne prize

    Click here to see the Gallery Map if you are looking at this on your podcast app.

    https://youtu.be/n7FwTgsPOCY
    Artist Sylvia Ken talks with Maria Stoljar
    Gallery map of the AGNSW – Archibald, Wynne Sulman prizes exhibition

    Click on the artist’s name below to go to their podcast episode and see the video

    The time marking shows where the artist’s work is mentioned on the podcast and the number following the name is the number of the work in the AGNSW.

    0:55___Marc Etherington (61)

    3:08___Ken Done (63)

    4:34___ Blak Douglas and Elaine Russell (62)

    7:38____Natasha Bieniek (54)

    10:06___Abdul Abdullah (52)

    11:56___Michaye Boulter (55)

    13:39___Sylvia Ken (winner) (65)

    16 min
  • Ep 72: The Sulman

    Here’s your guide to the paintings of the six podcast guests whose works were shortlisted in the 2019 Sir John Sulman prize. Go to episodes 73 and 74 for the Wynne and Archibald guides!

    Click here for an overview of how to use this guide

    Click here to see the Sir John Sulman finalist paintings.

    Feature photo: ‘The first girl that knocked on his door’ (detail) oil on canvas, 153 x 122.5cm, McLean Edwards, winner of the Sir John Sulman prize, 2019.

    Click on the artist’s name below to hear their podcast interview and see the podcast video.

    The time marking shows where the artist’s work is mentioned on the podcast and the number following the name is the number of the work in the AGNSW.

    1:12___John Bokor (84)

    3:37___Paul Ryan (104)

    6:10___Ken Done (87)

    8:00___McLean Edwards (winner) (88)

    10:38__Alan Jones (91)

    13:19__Abdul Abdullah (81)

    17 min
  • Ep 71: Archibald Wynne and Sulman 2019

    This year twenty podcast guests were selected as finalists in the Archibald, Wynne, and Sulman prizes, which are exhibited every year at the Art Gallery of NSW, with a total of 26 paintings between them. In the next three episodes I’m going to talk to you about those works. Scroll down to see some tips on how to listen to these episodes.

    How to use episodes 72-74:

    1. As an audio guide at the Art Gallery of NSW (until 8 September 2019) or any gallery the exhibition travels to.
      • scroll down for a map of the gallery rooms and list of finalists. (or click here if you’re looking at this on your podcast app)
      • There is a time marking for each painting so you can skip forward or back.
      • To hear the complete podcast interview and view video of the artist click on the artist’s name in the list below.
      • Tips – download the podcast episodes onto your phone before you go (in case the wi-fi’s not great) and take a screenshot of the map!
        • Listen while you look at the paintings online on the gallery’s website
          • click here for the Archibald paintings
          • click here for the Wynne paintings
          • click here for the Sir John Sulman paintings
            • Just listen! It’ll still be fun.
            • The guides

              The Archibald guide is here

              The Wynne guide is here

              The Sulman guide is here

              Gallery Map

              Map of location of podcast guest paintings at the AGNSW.

              (Click here if you are looking at this on your podcast app)

              Episode 72: SULMAN FINALISTS

              1:12 ___John Bokor(84)

              3:37____Paul Ryan(104)

              6:10___ Ken Done (87)

              8:00____McLean Edwards (88)

              10:38___Alan Jones (91)

              13:19___Abdul Abdullah (81)

              Episode 73: WYNNE FINALISTS

              00:55___Marc Etherington (63)

              3:08___ Ken Done (61)

              4:34____Blak Douglas (62)

              7:38____Natasha Bieniek (54)

              10:06___Abdul Abdullah (52)

              11:56___Michaye Boulter(55)

              13:39___Sylvia Ken(65)

              Episode 74: ARCHIBALD FINALISTS

              1:25____Jude Rae (41)

              3:35____Jonathan Dalton (14)

              6:40____Prudence Flint (22)

              9:38____Tony Costa (13)

              13:05___Blak Douglas (18)

              15:50___Paul Ryan (43)

              18:13___Marc Etherington (20)

              21:11___Loribelle Spirovski (44)

              23:35___Laura Jones (27)

              25:10___Vanessa Stockard (45)

              27:54___Natasha Bieniek (5)

              29:51___Natasha Walsh (49)

              32:45___Euan Macleod (34)

              3 min
            • Ep 70: Tony Costa
              Tony Costa says winning the Archibald makes the invisible artist visible but you wouldn’t have called him invisible before he won the prize this year. 

              He’s been painting for over 50 years, and in addition to the Archibald has won several other awards including the Paddington Art Prize for landscape painting and has been shortlisted in others including another three times in the Archibald, in the Doug Moran National Portrait Prize, the Wynne Prize, the Sulman Prize, the Kilgour Prize, and the list goes on.

              Costa paints in an expressionist style. His whole practice is about trapping energy and a large part of his method is guided by an eastern philosophy – seeking to enter into the world of nothingness and distancing himself from any thought process. This process is applied whether it’s a landscape or a portrait.

              His methods are neither traditional nor predictable and I found our conversation incredibly interesting and eye opening with a good dose of humour thrown in.

              This podcast interview was recorded in Tony’s beautiful studio in Sydney. To hear it, press play beneath the above feature photo.

              I first met Tony at the Art Gallery of NSW shortly after his win was announced. You can see my 5 minute interview with him on that day here.

              Scroll down for a short video of Tony Costa talking with Maria Stoljar in his studio.

              Current shows

              • Archibald, Wynne and Sulman prizes, Art Gallery of NSW, Sydney, current until 8 September 2019
              • Salon des Refusés, S.H.Ervin Gallery, Sydney, current until 28 July 2019
              • Show Notes

                • Tony Costa at Art Atrium
                • Desiderius Orban
                • Kevin Connor
                • Fred Cress
                • John Firth Smith
                • Colin Lanceley
                • Syd Ball
                • Rodney Milgate
                • Ian Fairweather
                • Fred Williams
                • Neo-expressionism
                • Transavanguardia
                • Mimmo Paladino
                • Enzo Cucchi
                • Francesco Clemente
                • Sandro Chia
                • Roberta Bell- Allen
                • Clement Greenberg
                • Lucian Freud
                • Philip Guston
                • Rembrandt
                • John Peart
                • Lindy Lee
                • Claudia Chan Shaw
                • David Fairbairn
                • Ben Quilty
                • Lloyd Rees
                • Jeanette Siebols
                • https://youtu.be/-wmdfFrmK70
                  Tony Costa talks with Maria Stoljar in his studio
                  ‘Lindy Lee’, 2019, oil on canvas,182.5 x 152cm
                  Winner Archibald Prize 2019
                  ‘Fallen Tree Port Hacking River RNP’, 2014, gouache on paper, 135 x 114cm
                  Winner Paddington Art Prize 2014
                  ‘Claudia Chan Shaw’, 2018, oil on canvas, 182.5 x 152cm
                  Finalist Archibald Prize 2018
                  ‘Simon Chan’, 2017, oil on canvas, 183 x 152cm
                  Finalist Archibald Prize 2017
                  ‘David Fairbairn’, 2015, oil on canvas, 152 x 122cm
                  Finalist Archibald Prize, 2015
                  Portraits of David Fairbairn in Costa’s studio – finalists in the Archibald Prize, Kilgour Prize and Doug Moran National portrait prizes.
                  ‘Hacking River Audley RNP’ vinyl on paper, 152 x 114cm
                  Salon des Refusés, S.H Ervin Gallery, 2019
                  ‘Angophora RNP’, 2014, gouache on paper, 151 x 114cm
                  Finalist Wynne Prize 2014
                  Costa’s first painting created at 13 years of age which he talks about in the opening minutes of the interview
                  1 hr 9 min
                • Ep 69: Neil Frazer
                  Neil Frazer is a landscape painter but don’t expect pictures of rolling hills or calming seascapes.

                  His powerful work depicts the harsh and dangerous environments in our world, where the sea smashes against jagged rocks and freezing glaciers slide past uninhabitable snowy peaks. 

                  It’s the physicality and energy of these places that he’s aiming to convey and he does so spectacularly.

                  He combines an impasto technique with layering and glazing to produce a complex visual experience and his compositions often involve intriguing negative spaces which contribute to the drama and mystery of his work.

                  He has exhibited in dozens of solo shows in Australia and New Zealand and his latest solo show, Liquid Light, opens at Martin Browne Contemporary in Sydney on 30 May 2019.

                  Although he grew up in New Zealand, he has spent half his life in Australia where he completed his Masters degree after previous postgraduate study in New York.

                  In this episode you’ll hear about how and why his work moved from abstraction to figuration and why he doesn’t believe there is a significant difference between the two, why he’s drawn to his subject matter and plenty about his technique and process.

                  To hear the podcast episode click ‘play’ under the feature photo above.

                  Scroll down to see a short video of Frazer talking with Maria Stoljar in his studio.

                  Upcoming shows

                  • ‘Liquid Light’, Martin Browne Contemporary, Sydney, 30 May – 23 June 2019
                  • Show Notes

                    • Neil Frazer at Martin Browne Contemporary
                    • Neil Frazer at Philip Bacon Gallery
                    • Francisco Goya
                    • Frank Auerbach
                    • Jackson Pollock
                    • Milton Resnick
                    • Paula Cooper Gallery
                    • Donald Judd
                    • Joel Shapiro
                    • Elizabeth Murray
                    • Clifton Pugh
                    • Tim Storrier
                    • Euan Macleod
                    • Joanna Braithwaite
                    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy97smrExOc&t=79s
                      Neil Frazer in his studio
                      ‘Guiding Light’, 2019, acrylic on canvas, 182 x 182cm
                      ‘Birds Eye’, 2011, acrylic on canvas, 168 x 168cm
                      ‘Travelling Light’, 2017, acrylic on canvas, 152 x 152cm
                      ‘Grotto Blue-Green’ 2016, acrylic on canvas 152 x 152cm
                      ‘Fourth Gorge’, 2011, acrylic on canvas, Finalist Wynne Prize 2011
                      ‘Bravo’, 2003, oil on linen
                      49 min
                    • Ep 68: Blak Douglas
                      Blak Douglas is well known for his brightly coloured landscapes with their trademark seven-tiered sky but he’s also an accomplished portraitist.

                      At the time of writing, his work hangs in the Art Gallery of NSW in both the Archibald and Wynne prizes which are arguably the most famous portrait and landscape awards in Australia.

                      His paintings always have something to say about social justice, often with irony and humour playing an important part and with his Aboriginal identity central to his work. 

                      He’s won several awards and has been finalist in many others including three times in the Archibald prize and his work is held in various public collections including the National Gallery of Australia.

                      His grandmother, Clorine Morthem,  was one of the stolen generation, taken at 13 years of age and institutionalised in Cootamundra Girls home, something that has had repercussions down the generations. 

                      His father’s ancestors are the Dunghutti people from northern NSW and his mother was from an Irish Australian background. Although his name given at birth is Adam Hill, he took on the name Blak Douglas in recent years to reflect those two sides of his ancestry.

                      I spoke with him in his Redfern studio which he shares with other artists and this conversation starts at an earlier time, when his parents first met.

                      Press play under the feature photo above to hear the podcast episode.

                      Scroll down to see a short video of Douglas in his studio.

                      Current events

                      • Archibald, Wynne and Sulman Prizes, Art Gallery of NSW, 11 May to 8 September 2019
                      • Show notes

                        • Blak Douglas
                        • Blak Douglas on Instagram
                        • Boomalli Aboriginal Artists Co-operative
                        • Aunty Jean South
                        • Uncle Roy Kennedy
                        • Aunty Elaine Russell
                        • Aunty Esme Timbery
                        • Hetti Perkins
                        • ‘White shells, black heart’, 2019, synthetic polymer paint and shells on canvas, 195 x 195cm
                          Finalist Archibald Prize, 2019
                          ‘Six Finger Salary’, 2009, synthetic polymer on cotton canvas, 100 x 130cm
                          Finalist Wynne Prize 2009

                          ‘Uncle Roy Kennedy’, 2018, synthetic polymer paint on canvas, 195.5 x 195.5cm
                          Finalist Archibald Prize 2018
                          ‘Smoke and mrrors (Uncle Max Eulo), acrylic on canvas, 214 x 214cm
                          Finalist Archibald prize 2015
                          ‘Ashes, damper and kangaroo stew for dinner’, 2019, synthetic polymer paint on canvas, 94.5 x 124.5cm (collaboration with the late Elaine Russell)
                          Finalist Wynne prize 2019
                          ‘Three strikes and you’re out’, synthetic polymer on canvas 150 x 200cm
                          ‘Upstanding Citizen’, 2018, synthetic polymer on canvas, 120 x 100cm
                          53 min
                        • Ep 67: Del Kathryn Barton
                          Del Kathryn Barton is undoubtedly one of the biggest names in Australian art today.

                          Her work is hotly sought after internationally and, in Australia, she is probably best known for the rare achievement of having won the Archibald prize twice – no mean feat in a race where women have only won the award 12 times in close to 100 years.

                          Her paintings are instantly recognizable. Figures with drawn hands and faces look out of the picture with mesmerising eyes, existing in an imaginary world. That world is filled with colour and exquisite detail.

                          Barton has exhibited in over 20 solo shows including a 4-month major survey of her work at the National Gallery of Victoria last year and her work is held in many public institutions and private collections.

                          However,  painting forms only part of her life’s work and, although we also talked about her film-making, we didn’t touch on her photo montages, sculptures and installations and her current New York show ‘sing blood-wings sing’  which includes a 10m long work in 5 panels of the same name.

                          We met in one of her Sydney studios where I was lucky enough to see 10 or so works in mid-completion for her upcoming October show at Roslyn Oxley 9 in Sydney.

                          She is warm and honest and openly speaks about dark times. However, as with her work, she seems to find a balance between the light and dark and laughter is always closeby.

                          To hear our conversation press ‘play’ beneath the above feature photo.

                          Current and upcoming shows
                          • Albertz Benda, New York, NY, ‘sing blood-wings sing’  current to 13 April 2019
                          • Roslyn Oxley9, solo show, October 2019
                          • Show notes
                            • Del Kathryn Barton at Roslyn Oxley9
                            • Del Kathryn Barton at Albertz Benda
                            • Archibald prize
                            • Hugo Weaving
                            • Cate Blanchett
                            • Marc Etherington 
                            • The Nightingale and the Rose at ACMI (with short videos on the making of the film)
                            • The Nightingale and the Rose (book) 
                            • The Nightingale and the Rose by Oscar Wilde
                            • Brendan Fletcher
                            •  

                              ‘Self-portrait with studio wife’, 2018, acrylic on linen, 203 x 183cm (finalist Arhibald Prize 2018)

                              ‘the preservation of the shimmer self’, 2018- 2019, 240 x 200cm

                              ‘come of things’, 2010, synthetic polymer paint, gouache, watercolour and pen on polyester canvas , 240 x 360cm (permanent collection, Art Gallery of NSW)

                              ‘you are what is most beautiful about me, a self portrait with Kell and Arella’ 2008, synthetic polymer paint, watercolour, gouache and pen on polyester canvas, 280 x 180cm (winner Archibald Prize 2008)

                              ‘hugo’, 2013, watercolour, gouache and acrylic on canvas, 200 x 180cm (winner Archibald Prize 2013)

                              ‘Mother (a portrait of Cate)’, 2011, watercolour, gouache, acrylic and pen on polyester canvas, 240 x 180cm (finalist Archibald Prize 2011)

                              ‘wilder grew her song’ 2011-2012 acrylic gouache watercolour and ink on polyester canvas

                              ‘Weird Seed’ 2017, acrylic on french linen, 180 x 160cm

                               

                              1 hr 25 min
                            • Ep 66: Kiata Mason
                              Through her art, Kiata Mason takes us into her world and her way of seeing. Her still lifes are filled with the objects from her home, collected over generations, and portraits contain reminders of the past.

                              She plays with colour and perspective to convey her subjects not quite the way they exist in reality but with an ever present optimism and empathy mixed with a bit of kookiness.

                              She has a Masters degree in drawing from the National Art School and this forms the foundations of her painting. Last year she won the Muswellbrook Art prize for works on paper and she’s also been a finalist and semi-finalist in many major painting prizes including the Sulman, Doug Moran, Black Swan and Paddington art prizes. She has exhibited in five solo shows and has another two coming up this year but still sees herself in the early stages of her career as a painter. Her work crosses still life, portraiture and landscape.

                              I recorded this episode in Kiata’s studio in the back room of her home in Lake Cathie just south of Port Macquarie in NSW’s mid north coast. She lives at times a rather isolated life but this is not only due to the geography of where she lives.  As the full-time carer of her grandmother suffering from Alzheimer’s, a cup of tea with a friend is a rare event and even a trip to the shops is a major operation.

                              Kiata grew up in various parts of NSW including Sydney, Newcastle, Port Macquarie and Armidale. She was surrounded by strong women particularly her mother and grandmother who had a background in theatre and were always interested in the arts.

                              To hear the episode press play under the feature photo above.

                              I filmed a short video of Kiata in her studio and you can see it below.

                              Upcoming shows
                              • PLC Artist-in-residence – Adelaide Perry Gallery  Residency culminating in show of works  – April 2019
                              • Group show, Arthouse Gallery 20 June – 6 July
                              • Solo show, Muswellbrook Arts Centre, July 2019
                              • Solo show, AKBellinger Gallery, date TBA
                              • Show Notes
                                • Kiata Mason on Instagram
                                • Kiata Mason with Amber Creswell Bell
                                • Kiata Mason at AK Bellinger Gallery
                                • Kiata Mason at Arthouse Gallery
                                • Drill Hall Gallery
                                • National Gallery of Australia 
                                • David Hockney
                                • Pierre Bonnard
                                • National Art School
                                • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwZ3OJquz8E

                                  ‘The artist’s table’, 2018, acrylic on canvas, 94.5 x 126cm (finalist Sir John Sulman Prize 2018)

                                  ‘Gathering what we have’, 2018, acrylic on canvas, 94 x 94cm

                                  ‘Grandmother Bea’, 2017, arcylic on canvas (semi-finalist Doug Moran National Portrait Prize 2017)

                                  ‘Patchwork rocks’, 2018, acrylic on canvas, (finalist Paddington Art Prize 2018)

                                  ‘Rainy Day in the Studio’, 2018, acrylic on canvas, 156 x 126cm

                                  ‘The whole world in a room’, 2018, acrylic on canvas, 125 x 156cm

                                  59 min
                                • Ep 65: Nicholas Harding
                                  Nicholas Harding is one of Australia’s most celebrated artists. He has been awarded the Archibald prize, the Archibald People’s Choice award, the Kilgour prize and the Dobell drawing prize amongst others. His work crosses portraiture, landscape and still life.

                                  Harding’s oil paintings are created with a glorious impasto technique, he uses gouache to capture the lifesize portraits of many a famous sitter and he is renowned for his magnificent ink drawings.

                                  He has had over 30 (often sell-out) solo shows, major survey shows of his work have been held at the S H Ervin Gallery and the National Portrait Gallery and his work is in the collections of many public institutions including the Art Gallery of New South Wales, the National Gallery of Australia, the National Portrait Gallery, and in private and corporate collections around the world.

                                  One of the major impacts on his work was coming to Australia after spending the first 8 years of his life in England and, in particular, his observation of the different light and how its glare created contrasts which were so different to the muted tones of England.  It was his time in the bush and the beaches as a child which caused him later to move further from the English influence to make Australia the subject of his work.

                                  In this episode we talk about his influences, painting from memory, the strengths and weaknesses of using photographic references, failing in order to succeed, making art during the dark times and much more. To hear the episode press ‘play’ under the feature photo above or listen however you get your podcasts.

                                  See short video of Harding in his studio below.

                                  Current Upcoming shows
                                  • Destination Sydney Re-Imagined (together with work by Wendy Sharpe and Jeffrey Smart)  at S H Ervin Gallery until 17 March 2019
                                  • Solo show at Philip Bacon Galleries, Brisbane, 20 August – 14 September 2019
                                  • Show Notes
                                    • Nicholas Harding
                                    • Nicholas Harding on Instagram
                                    • Nicholas Harding at Olsen Gallery
                                    • Nicholas Harding at Philip Bacon Galleries
                                    • Nicholas Harding at Sophie Gannon Gallery
                                    • Simone de Beauvoir
                                    • Memento mori
                                    • Willem De Kooning
                                    • Mark Rothko
                                    • Howard Hodgkin
                                    • JMW Turner
                                    • Vincent van Gogh
                                    • Henri de Toulouse Lautrec
                                    • Russell Drysdale
                                    • Brett Whiteley
                                    • Lloyd Rees
                                    • Arthur Boyd
                                    • Sidney Nolan
                                    • Francis Bacon
                                    • Chuck Close
                                    • Malcolm Morley
                                    • Frank Auerbach
                                    • Leon Kossoff
                                    • Walter Sickert
                                    • John Bell
                                    • Robert Drewe
                                    • Catherine Hunter
                                    • Anna Volska
                                    • John Olsen  
                                    • John Singer Sargent
                                    • Hugo Weaving
                                    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWezJHrg9P4&t=7s

                                      ‘Treatment, day 49, (sorbolene soak)’, 2018, (finalist Archibald prize 2018)

                                      ‘John Bell as King Lear’, 2001, oil on canvas on board, 177 x 105cm (winner Archibald Prize 2001)

                                      ‘Robert Drewe (in the swell)’ 2006, oil on linen, 138 x 123cm  (finalist Archibald Prize 2006)

                                      ‘Anna Volska and Georgia’, 2015, gouache and watercolour on paper, 168 x 76cm

                                      ‘John Olsen, AO, OBE’, 2017, oil on linen, 198 x 138cm (finalist, Archibald prize, 2017)

                                      ‘Estuary figures (swim-ring, towel and hat) 2013, oil on Belgian linen, 112 x 107cm

                                      ‘Lagoon (canoe)’ 2011 – 2012, oil on Belgian linen, 138 x 138cm

                                      ‘Wilpena wattle’, 2016, oil on linen, 172.5 x 172.5 cm (finalist Wynne prize 2016)

                                      ‘Wilpena eucalypt and wattle’, 2017, oil on linen, 183 x 245cm (finalist Wynne prize 2017)

                                      ‘Eddy Avenue 3’ , 2001, ink on paper, 132 x 149cm.  (Winner Dobell Prize for Drawing, collection of the Art Gallery of NSW)

                                      ‘Bunjalung Pandanus 2018’ ink on paper, in the studio (Instagram @nicholas0harding)

                                      Drawings, paintings and etchings from theatre rehearsals and performances (Instagram @nicholas0harding)

                                      Ink drawings created during period of chemotherapy treatment (instagram @nicholas0harding)

                                       

                                      1 hr 18 min

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