This week, Susan is joined once again by her friend, Rashel Townsend!

Susan often says, "Our relationships are only as healthy as we are." And that's exactly what this conversation is about.

Join them as they talk about the importance of an ordered heart rooted in God, how that shapes the way we handle relational conflict, and the dangers of passivity, people-pleasing, misplaced identity and more!

In this episode Susan is joined again by her friend, Rashel Townsend!

Susan and Rashel explore the topic of Order vs. Chaos as it relates to the heart… What are the characteristics of an ordered heart? What about a chaotic heart? How does each one affect us and those around us?

The two of them share personal struggles and practical ways we can begin bringing more order into our lives. And we're not talking about organizing the pantry—we're talking about allowing God to redirect us when we’ve gone astray…

In this episode, Susan sits down with Brandon Swoboda from Workmatters to talk about how our jobs often become our identity, but God has a much greater design and purpose for our work…He uses our work to draw us closer to Him.

As Brandon reminds us, "Work is still good. How do we know that? Because it was created when things were still good.” (Genesis 1)

This week, Susan is joined again by Brandon Swoboda for a meaningful conversation on cultivating faithfulness through legacy and discipleship. Together, they explore the importance of men pursuing mentorship—both as disciples and disciplers—and how God uses that to shape us, our families, our communities, and future generations.

If you’ve ever wondered what it practically looks like to build a life that outlasts you, this conversation will challenge and encourage you in the best way.

“What are you chasing?”

In this episode, Susan sits down with Brandon Swoboda, CEO and President of Workmatters, for a thoughtful conversation about biblical manhood and the importance of reflection. Together, they explore what happens when work, success, and striving become our goal, why stillness and reflection can feel so difficult, and how true formation begins when we learn to sit with God.

Whether you’re a man or someone who loves and walks alongside the men in your life, this conversation offers encouragement, wisdom, and a reminder that God is far more concerned with who we are becoming than the status we strive to achieve.

Resources:

Living Thirsty: A Counterintuitive Way of Following Jesus on the Narrow Road by Dr. Kent Denlinger

This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation all about Circle Talk.

In this episode of the Tangible Truth Podcast, Susan — licensed professional counselor and author of Circle Talk: Control the Controllable and Release the Rest — is joined again by Rashel for a meaningful conversation about control and surrender.

Resources: 

• Purchase your own Circle Talk book!

• Interested in going through the full Circle Talk workshop? Have Susan lead your group through Circle Talk!

• The Tangible Truth Ministries Counseling Scholarship Program offers counseling scholarships to those who can not otherwise afford it. Applications are available through our website!

• If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally or in crisis, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Help is available 24/7.

Are you a self-proclaimed “control freak” but don’t know what to do about it?

In this episode of the Tangible Truth Podcast, Susan — licensed professional counselor and author of Circle Talk: Control the Controllable and Release the Rest — is joined again by Rashel for a meaningful conversation about control and surrender.

Together, they unpack how the constant need to control outcomes, people, or circumstances can deeply impact our mental health and relationships — and how God invites us into a different way of living through trust and surrender.

This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation all about Circle Talk.

Scripture references: Mark 12:30, Matthew 11:28–30, & 1 Peter 5:7

Resources: 

• Purchase your own Circle Talk book!

• Interested in going through the full Circle Talk workshop? Have Susan lead your group through Circle Talk!

• The Tangible Truth Ministries Counseling Scholarship Program offers counseling scholarships to those who can not otherwise afford it. Applications are available through our website!

• If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally or in crisis, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Help is available 24/7.

In honor of Mental Health Awareness Month, we’re talking all about counseling!

Who is counseling for? How do you know if counseling is the next best step for you? Is fear getting in your way?

Hear from Susan, a licensed professional counselor, and Rashel, someone who’s experienced counseling firsthand, as they answer some questions you may be having and dive into how we can know when counseling might be the next step we need to take.

When was the last time you paused to check in with how you’re really doing?

In this episode, Susan and Rashel explore the importance of emotional awareness and how it shapes both personal well-being and the health of our relationships.

Join the conversation as they share insights, relatable experiences, and tangible ways to take steps towards emotional maturity.

Scripture References

• Mark 12:30
• Matthew 22:37-38
• Deuteronomy 6:5

Book Reference

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter Scazzero

Part 4 (the finale) is here! This week on Tangible Truth Podcast with Susan & Friends, we’re wrapping up our April series: “Our Relationship with Our Bodies.”

Through this series, Susan & Rashel have opened up about walking with the Lord through seasons of struggle, the lies the enemy tries to plant about our bodies, and the practical ways we can fight back with truth.

And now—we’re closing it out by answering these questions:

• What does a right and healthy relationship with our bodies look like?
• What does God think about our bodies?
• What is His design and purpose for our bodies?

If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, we hope this episode is an encouragement to you and helps lead you into reflection, truth, and healing.