What if there was no wrong way to hold music? No Maths, no charts, just relationship with spirit? What if music was the infiniteness of breath held in Nature's melodies?

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This conversation with Māori storyteller and musician Dane Scott uncovers the profound connection between music, presence, and nature. Playing music, breathing life through living wood and stone and shell, with the rivers, beaches, and forests, receiving responses from birds and our cousins ... this is communion.

We also reflect on the enduring relevance of ancient stories and their wisdom in addressing modern ecological challenges, from the plight of New Zealand's indigenous peoples to the artistic transformation of myths into meaningful films. Dane emphasizes the cyclical nature of life, reminds us of the transient beauty of every experience and the growth that arises from both joy and sorrow.

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Takeaways:

• Takeaways Connecting with nature and listening to the sounds of the natural world can bring a sense of peace and connection. 
• Playing traditional musical instruments, such as taonga puoro, can deepen the connection with nature and evoke a sense of oneness. 
• There is a need to trust in the wisdom and animacy of the natural world and to listen to the messages it has to offer. 
• Communication with trees and nature requires being present, still, and open to receiving the responses. 
• The stages of communication with trees involve moving from boredom to surrender and allowing new realities to manifest. 
• It is important to ask the land and nature what they want and to be willing to listen and act accordingly. Listening to nature and acknowledging the animism in all living beings can deepen our connection to the natural world. 
• Ancient stories and myths hold wisdom and can provide guidance in our lives. Photography and film can capture the essence of individuals and nature, allowing us to see ourselves and the world in a new light. 
• Being present and embracing change are essential for personal growth and understanding our interconnectedness with the natural world. 
• Finding morality in our connection to nature and living in harmony with the cycles of life can bring about positive change.