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This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Matt Rodbard, a seasoned writer, editor and author in the food and culture space. Matt is the Editor in Chief of the award winning food publication TASTE and co-host of podcast This is TASTE.
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Matt
Website
Taste
Website
Newsletter
Podcast
YouTube
Twitter/X
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Links & References
Nieman Lab piece on Clone
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Introducing Matt Rodbard
00:01:39 Food content at The Webbys
00:06:39 The shift to creator-first journalism
00:14:32 Rising critical food content online
00:18:37 Visual identity in a sea of sameness
00:27:41 The relationship between written and audio content
00:32:10 The financial landscape of the food industry
00:35:58 Diners habits are changing
00:40:20 Pop-ups are the newsletters of restaurants
00:45:40 The old thing is someone's new thing
00:55:43 Like it or not, you're a founder
01:01:58 The best German food outside of Germany
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
Francis is out of town this week and Daisy is joined by Tove Danovich, a journalist and writer who has featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Ringer, and Dirt. She is the author of the 'Under the Henfluence: Inside the World of Backyard Chickens and the People Who Love Them', an immersive blend of chicken-keeping memoir and animal welfare reporting.
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Tove
Website
Substack
Bluesky
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Links & References
Dirt x Boys Club: clone.fyi
Tove's book list: Nine amazing books about animals
Tove's climate change piece: On hope and hopelessness
Daisy's essay: Attention is what makes us human
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Timestamps
00:00 Introducing Tove
01:50 Curiosity is the topic of life
06:49 Our relationship with urban wildlife
12:33 Impactful responses from Tove's readers
17:56 Chicken's in culture through the ages
22:04 The political power of the egg
27:00 The deeply feminist story of chickens and egg-money
31:32 Beekeeping and pollination myths
36:00 Nine amazing books about animals
41:17 The challenges of writing about climate and nature
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Sarah Leonard, editor in chief of Lux Magazine, a feminist magazine of politics and culture founded in 2021. Sarah is also a contributing editor to Dissent and The Nation, and her writing has been published in The New York Times, The Guardian, The New Republic, and elsewhere.
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Lux Magazine
Website
Twitter/X
References
Interview with Sarah: Creative Independent
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Timestamps
00:00 American tourists irritate American tourist
09:10 The joys and difficulties of print media
12:33 Designing a website that feels like a magazine
15:02 Customizable databased for your personal life
17:18 Fundraising for a politically opinionated media business
19:27 The versatility of an editor
23:19 Who is the Lux reader?
32:13 Helping young writers
43:21 Highlights from Lux
50:15 Don't fall into the clout trap
56:56 How the internet works
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins of Boys Club, a media and creative studio. They're also the hosts of the Dumb B!tch Hour, a podcast for the deeply online, where they chat about all things tech, crypto, and pop culture news.
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Boys Club
Website
Dumb B!tch Hour Podcast
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References
Ben's play: Rich Beyond Our Wildest Dreams
Francis' essay: What is the creator economy?
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Timestamps
00:00 Introducing Boys Club
01:17 New verticals & what is the creator economy?
03:52 Chet and Pret
06:02 The internet is where we live
09:16 Twitter, ribbed for your pleasure
16:06 Black Mirror, a zone 2 show
19:35 Rich beyond our wildest dreams
22:26 The sustainability of a cosy internet
28:04 Google Doc website, the ultimate no-code
36:28 Strong memories loosely accurate
41:59 Daisy's latest Chat-GPT beef
43:45 AI companionship and the lack of refusal
50:55 Putting your mouth where your money is
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by versatile writer and editor, Paula Mejía. Paula specializes in arts and culture journalism and is currently a leading contributor at Dirt.
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Paula
Twitter/X
Website
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Other references
Francis' brand sillage piece
Paula's Barnes and Noble piece
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Timestamps
00:00 Introducing Paula Mejía
00:28 Festival experiences
03:40 Coachella emergency dental
07:15 The best and worst of Coachella
12:16 Flower crowns out, assless chaps in
14:36 Spa day festival hack
18:15 Hot Topic and the evolution of subculture
25:58 Embrace the spoilers
30:48 The power in mischief in brand collabs
36:26 The revival of the bookstore
43:46 Facebook marketplace is the place
45:30 The role of festivals in social connections
50:06 County fair community nostalgia
53:09 The corporatization of modern life
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis talk to travel and hospitality writer, Colin Nagy. Colin is also the co-creator of the newsletter 'Why is this interesting?'
Colin: https://x.com/CJN
Why is this interesting?: https://www.interesting.us
00:00:00 Long live the girl moss
00:04:08 The podcast mic and illusion of authority
00:06:20 Credibility laundering: How to industry plant yourself
00:11:01 Blockchain taste formalization
00:13:51 Abstract theories applied to the blockchain
00:16:43 Who gets to decide how we remember?
00:27:10 Language, Culture, and Their Role in Shaping LLMs
00:33:01 Media literacy and factchecking LLMs
00:42:32 New money's impact on hospitality and experiences
00:48:00 Memorable and personal hospitality experiences
00:52:55 The social contract is broken: Degrading manners in society
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange from the Future Commerce podcast. What is the future of art in an AI world? Do we need more friction in our lives? Should AI feel shame?
Listen to Future Commerce: https://www.futurecommerce.com/episodes
00:00 Introduction to Phil and Brian
01:46 Blank launch party
05:52 OpenAI’s Studio Ghibli marketing ploy
11:45 All that we’re left with is aura
19:27 The value of the art is the creator
25:00 Losing control of the environment art is observed
29:29 Our shitty robot future
36:14 An Industrial Revolution for the minds
39:23 Online shopping can diminish creativity
51:50 The future of mobility is textiles
55:28 Cultural change requires calamity
01:01:47 Has frictionless gone too far?
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Kori Fuerst, co-founder of Retrospekt, a consumer electronics company specialising in reviving retro tech for a new generation.
Retrospekt: https://retrospekt.com
00:00 Introducing Kori and Restrospekt
02:35 Awkward police encounters
06:12 Defaulting to the classic
08:09 The unique Retrospekt office space
11:14 Retro collaborations and IP licensing
14:53 Transitioning from hobby to business
22:28 Challenges with repairing newer tech
23:57 Pop cultures effect on retro tech hype
27:05 The rise of digicams and the 2000's aesthetic
29:22 Today's future retro tech
37:27 Late 80's tech is the most accessible for refurbishment
39:43 Dream retro tech collabs
45:36 The natural draw to analogue and tactile interfaces
51:29 The experience of film photos
55:10 Balancing scale and sustainability in retro tech
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Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Trey Taylor, Gen Z consumer expert who has recently pivoted into the world of fragrances and just launched their perfume brand Serviette.
Trey Taylor: https://x.com/treytylor
Serviette: https://serviette.nyc/pages/about?srsltid=AfmBOorQMQdp9fVeRd_vV-aXXIsRid3t8o2z9NL0ZZU19-3ZWsdFridM
00:00 Introducing Trey and Serviette
00:55 The symbiotic relationship between oral and written culture
04:00 Serviette launch party
09:08 The art and struggle of perfume creation
14:07 The monopolization of fragrance
22:16 Bartering and trading culture with the fragrance world
25:23 The role of contrast in color and scent
31:13 Selling a lifestyle: Marketing an aspiration
39:10 Taste is defined by perception, not possession
45:34 The challenges of online perfume shopping
54:45 Using taste to create something valuable
Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Charlie Baker, editor of The Fence, a quarterly print magazine (and weekly newsletter) focused on life in the UK and Ireland.
The Fence: https://www.the-fence.com
Capital Letter: https://thefencecapitalletter.substack.com/
00:00 Introducing Charlie Baker and The Fence
01:51 The value exchange of a podcast appearance
07:48 The Fence's unique and historic office space
13:41 The Capital Letter: London's only newsletter
20:52 Cultural exchange between the US and UK is growing
23:47 Increasing London pub coverage
27:54 London's entrepreneurial energy is rising
29:26 Did ye hear mammy died?
32:50 Defining the quintessential Fence story
36:06 The most important job of an editor
41:00 Publishing is an act of optimism
47:39 The loneliness of leadership
Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
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