It’s been four years since the infamous 2016 phone call between Taylor Swift and Kanye West was leaked, but it’s not over yet and we have all the deets (8:00). After confirming our suspicions, Ben Affleck and Ana de Armas head to the beach for a photo shoot or lack thereof (15:45). We then turn our attention to social-media findings that include accusations of Ellen DeGeneres being mean (25:45)? Plus: more book recommendations you should consider while you have the extra time (37:56).

Hosts: Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins

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