TechMagic with Cathy Hackl

Tech Landscape Predictions 2025: AI, Indie Games, and the Future of Virtual Dating with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler


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In the latest episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into their predictions for the tech landscape in 2025, exploring topics like AI, gaming, and the evolving role of technology in daily life. Cathy shares her optimism for the launch of World Labs and a shift in dating tech, while Lee highlights the indie gaming resurgence. They also reflect on concerns like China's influence in tech and the need for educational reform. The episode wraps up with personal goals for 2025, including health tech advancements and Lee's projects in writing and music distribution.

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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech and gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platform strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • 00:00 - Introduction and Context
  • 04:14 - Lee’s Tech Prediction for 2025
  • 06:23 - Cathy’s Prediction: AI Will Continue to be Talk of the Town
  • 08:07 - Will Epic acquire Niantic?
  • 10:35 - Will Intel Sell Part of its Business to a Competitor?
  • 13:02 - Bringing Chip Manufacturing Back to America
  • 19:40 - Prediction of Tough Times Ahead for Apple
  • 23:20 - Impact of Geo Politics on Tech
  • 29:32 - Excitement over CES

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