Uncle Marv welcomes back Paco Lebron for an episode packed with honest MSP talk, laughs, and a fresh take on community events. Hear why TechCon Unplugged is hitting the road this year, moving away from the big annual gathering to a more intimate, city-based tour designed to spark real connections and practical conversations. Paco pulls back the curtain on the challenges of standardizing IT stacks-swapping Araknis for Unify, wrestling with BYOD headaches, and the never-ending quest to make operations smoother for both clients and techs.

They don’t shy away from the tough stuff: burnout, the grind of podcasting, and the flood of industry events that can leave even the most seasoned MSPs overwhelmed. Marv and Paco trade stories about Microsoft’s nonprofit licensing shake-up, the art of recurring revenue, and why sometimes you just have to make the hard call on legacy clients and products. Personal moments shine through, from family health updates to the latest Florida Man gator encounter, reminding us that behind every business is a real human story.

Alligator with Lawn Chair Knocks on Doors: https://youtu.be/PHJgVDm4EKA?si=etrGplY60mqhYN7X

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned 

• ProdigyTeks – https://prodigyteks.com
• MSP Unplugged – https://mspunplugged.com
• TechCon Unplugged – https://mspunplugged.com/techcon-unplugged
• AppRiver – https://appriver.com
• Microsoft – https://microsoft.com
• Huntress – https://huntress.com
• Snap One (Araknis) – https://www.snapone.com/shop/en/snap/araknis
• Unify (Ubiquiti) – https://ui.com
• EnGenius – https://www.engeniustech.com
• SonicWall – https://www.sonicwall.com
• Fortinet – https://www.fortinet.com
• Palo Alto Networks – https://www.paloaltonetworks.com
• Cisco – https://www.cisco.com
• TruGrid – https://trugrid.com
• Azure Virtual Desktop (Microsoft) –https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/virtual-desktop/
• Auvik – https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/auvik/
• Domotz – https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/domotz/
• MSP Camp – https://msp-camp.com
• ScaleCon – https://scalecon.com
• iTech Solutions – https://itech-solutions.com/

Products

• Microsoft Defender – https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/business/threat-protection/microsoft-defender
• Unify U6 Pro Access Points – https://amzn.to/4371Gx6
• WattBox – https://www.snapone.com/shop/en/snap/wattbox
• LinkRunner AT 4000 (NetAlly) – https://amzn.to/3SIwI9L
• Fluke LinkIQ – https://amzn.to/4mhasS7
• EtherScope (NetAlly) – https://amzn.to/45ajCtq

Books & Podcasts

• School of Podcasting (Dave Jackson) – https://schoolofpodcasting.com
• Health of IT Podcast (Diana Giles) – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/for-the-health-of-i-t/id1748637556
• Uncle Marv’s Unhealthy Podcast – https://www.unhealthypodcast.com/

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