On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the complex relationship between humans and AI, from Cathy’s immersive week dating four AI boyfriends to growing concerns around AI-generated content. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The discussion spans Meta’s new smart eyewear partnerships with Oakley and Prada, VRChat’s innovative brand integration with Sawhorse Studios, and alarming developments in military AI contracts. With Adam Davis McGee joining the conversation, the trio also shares insider highlights from AWE (Augmented World Expo). Together, they explore how AI is reshaping creativity, jobs, and relationships, while emphasizing the importance of preserving human connection and authenticity in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
• 02:48 Dating AI: Inside the Experiment with Four Virtual Boyfriends
• 08:24 The Limitations of Perfect: When AI Gets Too Performative
• 17:22 Digital Dopamine: The Psychology of AI Relationships
• 23:48 Tech Meets Military: The Rise of AI Defense Contracts
• 31:10 AI Content Saturation and the Return to Human Connection
• 39:22 Doubling Down on Human Skills in an AI World
• 45:13 Meta's Smart Glasses and VRChat's Brand Evolution
• 52:04 Nostalgia Goes Virtual: Classic 3D Experiences in VR
• 56:45 Final Thoughts: Finding Balance Between Tech and Human Connection

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Lee is on sick leave this week and we wish him a speedy recovery! Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design strategy. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The conversation also explores AI dating experiments, haptic tech in entertainment, and the evolving ethics of privacy in a spatially connected world. With insights from AWE and ILMxLAB, the hosts reflect on the shift from storytelling to “story living” and highlight key legislation shaping AI security. A must-listen for anyone tracking the future of tech-human interaction.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 

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Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl
• 06:33 Meta's Eagle Eye: Military XR Partnership with Palmer Luckey
• 14:05 Apple's Liquid Glass: Paving the Way for AR Glasses
• 17:25 Haptic Innovation: Apple's F1 Movie Trailer Experience
• 19:18 Human vs AI: Why F1 Racing Needs the Human Element
• 22:27 Browser History Dating: AI's Latest Match-Making Experiment
• 26:27 Snap's Vision: Consumer Smart Glasses Coming in 2026
• 31:27 From Storytelling to Story Living: ILMxLAB's Immersive Future
• 33:54 Closing Thoughts: Summer Break Announcement

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On this TechMagic Greatest Hits episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome AI thought leader Sandy Carter, author of AI First, Human Always, and COO of Unstoppable Domains for a deep dive into AI-driven leadership and technological transformation. They break down the latest innovations, from Apple’s Vision Pro developer workshop to Meta’s bold moves in AR and spatial computing. Sandy shares expert insights on how business leaders can embrace AI while staying human-centric. Plus, hear exclusive details on her upcoming SXSW keynote. Whether you're an entrepreneur, tech enthusiast, or AI pioneer, this episode is packed with game-changing knowledge you won’t want to miss.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Intro & Welcome to TechMagic
• 01:18 Inside Apple's Vision OS Developer Workshop Experience 
• 04:13 Apple Vision Pro: Beyond the Initial Sales Numbers
• 07:07 The Future of Apple's Spatial Computing Strategy
• 13:35 Meta's Latest Developments in AI and XR
• 20:51 Meta's AR Glasses and $50M Creator Fund Discussion
• 26:05 Nostalgia: Early Days of VR Development
• 30:06 Interview with Sandy Carter: AI First, Human Always
• 37:40 Transforming Business Leadership in the AI Era
• 42:28 Making AI Accessible for Companies of All Sizes
• 47:07 Innovation in AI Content: The Living Book Concept
• 50:52 Where to Find Sandy Carter's Work & Resources
• 52:13 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest breakthroughs in AI and their ripple effects across industries. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. They discuss how AI democratizes app creation, they examine Business Insider’s bold move toward a 70% AI-driven newsroom, Apple’s strategic push into gaming, and XR military collaborations from Meta and Microsoft. From wearable AI to the future of digital work, Cathy and Lee offer a sharp, balanced look at how AI is reshaping our world.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 

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Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
• 03:45 The Rise of Vibe Coding: Non-Developers Creating Sophisticated Apps
• 15:30 Business Insider's AI Adoption and the Future of Journalism
• 25:45 The Hidden Cost of Replacing Entry-Level Jobs with AI
• 35:20 Social Media's Evolution in the Age of AI Content
• 45:15 Apple's Gaming Strategy: Studio Acquisition and Platform Development
• 55:30 XR Military Contracts: Meta, Microsoft, and Palmer Luckey's Partnership
• 01:05:00 Next Week at AWE: Live Broadcasting and Upcoming Conversations

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler reunite to explore the latest in AI, tech hardware, and digital retail with special guest Dina Fierro, an Advisor and Fractional Marketing Leader. From Roblox’s real-world commerce integration to Google’s new XR glasses, the trio dives into how AI transforms distributed commerce, digital fashion, and the consumer experience. They also unpack wearable tech trends, spatial computing, and the ethical frontiers of AI-powered content creation. Whether you're a tech leader or brand builder, this episode delivers sharp insights on where innovation meets human connection in the future of retail.

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Dina Fierro Bio

Dina Fierro is a visionary marketing leader with over 15 years of experience at the intersection of beauty, fashion, culture, and technology. She has held senior roles at Christian Louboutin, NARS, and Shiseido Americas, where she led groundbreaking digital initiatives across AI, social commerce, and mixed reality. Known for blending creativity with innovation, Dina has launched industry-first experiences on platforms like Roblox and TikTok. A sought-after speaker, mentor, advisor, and fractional marketing leader, she helps brands translate cultural shifts into strategic, consumer-centric growth.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
• 03:00 Adventures in Big Sur: When Google Maps Leads You Astray
• 04:30 Exploring Japan: Robotics, Culture and Innovation
• 14:01 The YouTube AI Content Crisis: A New Era of Disinformation
• 20:13 AI in the Workplace: Why Companies Shouldn't Replace Humans
• 32:04 Interview with Dina Fierro: The Future of Retail & Commerce
• 34:21 The Evolution of Distributed Commerce
• 46:11 Future-Proofing Brand Strategy in the AI Era
• 54:12 The Fashion Challenge of Wearable Tech
• 58:59 Texas Social Media Laws & Gaming Platforms
• 01:02:31 The ChatGPT Coffee Ground Divorce Story
• 01:08:36 Book Recommendations & Looking Ahead to AWE

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech developments, from Meta's bold moves in AR to Apple's Vision Pro journey one year later.  They highlight Meta's success with Ray-Ban AI glasses, Apple’s challenges in AR innovation, and how creators are evolving into media moguls. Cathy also interviews special guest Jeff Barrett, who shares insights on building sustainable creator careers, the rise of nano-influencers, and the global expansion of digital content platforms. Whether you’re into cutting-edge tech or the creator economy, this episode captures 2025’s emerging trends.

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Jeff Barrett Bio

Jeff Barrett serves as the Chief Evangelist at the Shorty Awards, where he's been involved with the organization for 10 years. A former Shorty Award winner for Best Business Blogger, Barrett has evolved from a creator to an agency leader, demonstrating the possible progression within the creator economy. His journey began uniquely on MySpace and included creating a successful parody account on Twitter that inadvertently led to legitimate recognition in the marketing world. Barrett currently hosts the Shorty Awards show and runs a podcast called "It's No Fluke," which has produced over 130 episodes featuring leaders from major companies like Google, Meta, and the NFL.

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Key Discussion Topics

• 00:00 -  Intro & Tech News Overview
• 02:50 -  The Future of American XR: Competition and Innovation
• 11:15 -  Meta's Metaverse Strategy: Make or Break Year
• 28:18 -  Apple Vision Pro: One Year Later
• 41:24 -  Interview with Jeff Barrett: The Evolution of the Shorty Awards
• 47:32 -  The Creator Economy: Trends and Future Growth
• 53:27 -  Building Sustainable Creator-Brand Partnerships
• 01:02:34 -  Creator Identity & Platform Evolution
• 01:07:55 -  Final Thoughts & Media Recommendations

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In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. The duo discusses the ethics of emotional AI, the importance of human messiness, and the need for “non-AI pledges” in romance. Packed with Cathy’s real-world experiments and and insightful commentary, this episode is essential for anyone navigating love, intimacy, and connection in a world increasingly shaped by technology.

What you will learn:

• How AI companions are being used beyond loneliness relief
• Why the "messiness" of human relationships remains valuable 
• How to navigate the balance between technology-enhanced and authentic human connections in modern dating using Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale
• The emerging challenges of AI-generated messages in relationships
• Why creating "non-AI relationship pledges" might become important 
• How spatial computing and 3D interactions could transform the future of digital dating and what Cathy’s building to disrupt this space 
• Why human presence and in-person connections remain crucial 

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Samantha G Wolfe Bio

Samantha G Wolfe is the founder of Pitch Forward and an adjunct professor at NYU, where she teaches pioneering courses on avatars, AI agents, and virtual beings. With a background in psychology, television, and emerging tech, Sam specializes in brand strategy for bleeding-edge technologies, helping visionary companies clearly articulate their value and future impact. Her expertise spans AI, spatial computing, XR, haptics, and metaverse innovation across 20+ industries. Known for her clarity, depth, and contagious enthusiasm, she bridges the gap between innovation and understanding through thought leadership, marketing strategy, and education, empowering the world to grasp the true potential of tomorrow’s tech.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Special Episode on Tech, Love & Life
• 02:47 Dating in the Age of AI: Government Restrictions and Digital Romance
• 12:20 Beyond Loneliness: The Many Reasons People Use AI Companions
• 16:05 The Value of Human "Messiness" in Relationships
• 21:00 Reimagining Digital Dating Through 3D Presence
• 38:15 The Non-AI Relationship Pledge: Setting Digital Boundaries
• 44:53 The Tech Intimacy Scale: Finding Balance in Modern Love
• 50:20 Dating AI Chatbots: A Week-Long Experiment Preview
• 58:54 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Human Connection

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In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl shares an exciting announcement, whilst co-hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee dissect the latest shifts in AI, gaming, and digital privacy. From the delayed launch of Grand Theft Auto 6 to Meta’s controversial AI-driven ad strategies, the duo tackles pressing ethical, legal, and technological questions. They explore Visa’s investment in AI agents, Spotify’s AI DJ, and the societal impact of chatbots and deepfake legislation. With candid insights and sharp analysis, Lee and ADM shed light on the balance between innovation and responsibility, highlighting how AI reshapes industries, public trust, and the digital future.

What you will learn:

• Why GTA 6's delay to 2026 signals broader challenges in game development timelines
• How Meta's AI-powered advertising strategy could revolutionize digital marketing 
• Why AI chatbots present significant safety concerns for minors 
• The implications of new US legislation targeting deep fake pornography 
• How Visa's AI agent payment system could transform automated purchasing behaviors
• Why Meta Ray-Ban's default AI privacy settings raise significant data concerns
• How AI models prioritize objectives over truthfulness, with accuracy rates below 50%
• Why AI-generated evidence in legal proceedings requires new regulatory frameworks
• The impact of Spotify's AI DJ feature on the future of personalized music curation
• The challenges of training AI on potentially compromised or biased internet data
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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Introduction & Birthday Greetings for Cathy
• 01:36 AI's Impact on Tech: A Bumpy Road Ahead
• 05:10 GTA 6 Delay & Roblox Brand Partnerships
• 07:14 AI Chatbots: Safety Concerns for Young Users
• 13:09 Google's Responsible Approach to AI Development
• 14:29 New Legislation on Deepfake Content
• 19:55 AI-Generated Evidence in Legal Proceedings
• 24:25 The Truth Problem: AI's Accuracy Below 50%
• 28:23 Training AI on Internet Data: Garbage In, Garbage Out
• 30:58 Visa's AI Shopping Assistant Plans
• 36:09 Meta's AI-Powered Advertising Revolution
• 43:24 Meta Ray-Ban Privacy Settings Update
• 45:37 AI DJs & The Future of Music Curation
• 51:20 Closing Thoughts & Next Week's Preview

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Fintech Growth at Worldpay, the trio discusses the rise of digital wallets and embedded finance, as well as the power of AI agents and real-time payments. They explore how technology is redefining money movement on a global scale and tackle the impact of quantum computing on payment security. They look at the challenges of AI safety and what companies like Shopify are doing to lead the charge. A must-listen for anyone curious about the future of fintech.

What you will learn:

• How digital wallets are transforming global commerce
• Why embedded finance is revolutionizing delivery of financial services to customers
• The evolution of real-time payments across different global markets 
• How AI agents are reshaping commerce through automated purchasing 
• Why stablecoins are emerging as a crucial tool for cross-border payments 
• The impact of quantum computing on payment security 
• The challenges facing traditional retail experiences 
• Current concerns around AI chatbots and the need for stronger safety measures
• The growing pains of emerging tech trends, from Nintendo's preorder challenges to Meta's AI controversies

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Nabil Manji Bio

Nabil Manji is the Senior Vice President and Head of Fintech Growth and Financial Partnerships at Worldpay, where he leads strategic initiatives in emerging payment technologies and financial partnerships. With extensive experience in the payments industry, he oversees how Worldpay collaborates with banks, fintech companies, and card networks to shape the future of money movement. His expertise in payment infrastructure and involvement in Worldpay's Global Payments Report make him uniquely qualified to discuss how technological innovations are transforming the way we think about and handle transactions in an increasingly digital world. His strategic vision for the intersection of technology and finance provides valuable insights for businesses and professionals interested in the future of payments and financial technology.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
• 02:44 AI & Mental Health: The Rise of Digital Therapy Solutions
• 09:51 Nintendo Switch 2: When Preorders Go Wrong
• 18:06 Slate Auto: Reimagining the Electric Truck
• 25:44 The Three Pillars of AI in Payments with Nabil Manji
• 39:37 Digital Wallets: The Evolution of Modern Payment Methods
• 46:20 Cryptocurrency as Payment Infrastructure
• 49:20 Understanding Embedded Commerce & Finance
• 53:57 Quantum Computing's Impact on Payment Security
• 01:03:47 Meta AI Controversy: Safety Concerns & Celebrity Voices

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack viral AI trends, privacy concerns with ChatGPT's photo location capabilities, and the future of spatial computing with special guest Tom Emrich, author of "The Next Dimension." They discuss the marketing power of augmented reality, including Avon’s 320% sales boost, and examine the evolution from smartphone-based AR to smart glasses and mixed reality. Tom introduces the “Play, Pilot, Proof” framework and explains why “presence” is the new P in marketing. It’s a compelling look at how digital and physical worlds are converging fast.

What you will learn:

• How AI tools like ChatGPT can identify photo locations with striking accuracy
• Why the "em dash" has become a telltale sign of AI-generated content
• The significance of "presence" as the new P in marketing 
• How dark factories are revolutionizing manufacturing with robot-only operations
• Why brands need to follow the "Play, Pilot, Proof" framework 
• How spatial computing is transforming from smartphone-based AR to wearable devices 
• The implications of viral AI trends for privacy and data collection
• The potential impact of AI replacing white-collar workers and C-suite executives
• How brands can leverage AR for marketing with conversion rate increases of up to 320%

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Tom Emrich Bio

Tom Emrich is a pioneering product leader in spatial computing with over 15 years of experience in AR, VR, and wearables. He’s helped shape the future of human-technology interaction through roles at Meta and Niantic, where he led AR platform strategy, launched industry-first AR Ads, and introduced mixed reality experiences. As the author of The Next Dimension, Tom offers a definitive guide to using AR for business growth. He’s also an investor, startup advisor, and ecosystem builder, known for founding We Are Wearables and co-producing AWE. A recognized thought leader, Tom’s insights have been featured in Forbes, CNN, and The New York Times.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
• 04:45 AI Trends: From Studio Ghibli to Dogs as Humans
• 08:25 ChatGPT's Photo Location Detection: Privacy Concerns Revealed
• 17:35 The Em Dash: How to Spot AI-Generated Content
• 25:30 Should You Say "Please" and "Thank You" to AI?
• 35:38 Interview: Tom Emrich on The Next Dimension of AR Marketing
• 40:51 How AR is Transforming the Marketing Funnel
• 44:29 The Evolution of Spatial Computing Hardware
• 50:13 "Presence" - The New P in Marketing
• 56:10 Humanoid Robots and Dark Factories: The Future of Manufacturing

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