Katey reunites with her former Little Gold Men co-hosts David Canfield and Richard Lawson now that they’ve also wrapped up their time at Vanity Fair but remain very much in the thick of awards season. David, calling from Telluride, explains how Hamnet became such a sensation there while Richard, a veteran of the Venice Film Festival, explains why Jay Kelly may have met such a muted response there. They also indulge in a bit of nostalgia for their old podcast now that all three of them have left it— but we guarantee there are even bigger things ahead.

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