For the first episode of her podcast, Leslie speaks with Terra Newall, famous for surviving (and killing) Dirty John. Terra and Leslie talk trauma, weird therapists, and Terra's goal to support ethical true crime podcasts.

Hosted by Leslie Dobson.
Produced and edited by Liam Billingham.
Mixed by Aaron Dalton.

Executive producers are Paul Anderson and Scott McCarthy for Workhouse Media.

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