This episode was originally recorded to be part of a “Nerd Con 2” virtual conference….and then Nerd Con 2 didn’t happen. The good news is you get it as a podcast now! Listen in as Mike Huber and Kisa Marx dig into the idea of supporting play for ALL children, really ALL children, in authentic ways. 

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It’s the 350th episode of That Early Childhood Nerd! To celebrate, host Heather Bernt-Santy invited listeners to submit a quote that they would like to come on the show and talk about…and here it is! Please welcome listeners Gemma Medina and Valley Varma to the show!

The quote: “They caught all the wild children and put them in zoos. They made them do sums and wear sensible shoes. They put them to bed at the wrong time of day and made them sit still when they wanted to play,” from the book/poem Wild Child by Jeanne Willis. 

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In the fall of 2024, IPA-USA (the American Association for the Child’s Right to Play) celebrated its 50th anniversary by releasing an extensive collection of white papers on play topics across the lifespan. Host Heather Bernt-Santy contributed one of the papers. 

In this episode, Carol Garboden Murray interviews Heather about her white paper on the history and harm of the academic pushdown phenomenon in early childhood, and her recommendations for future efforts to combat it. 

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In the fall of 2024, IPA-USA (the American Association for the Child’s Right to Play) celebrated its 50th anniversary by releasing an extensive collection of white papers on play topics across the lifespan. 

In this episode, Heather Bernt-Santy interviews Kisa Marx and Emily Clark about their white paper, “Redefining Basic Needs: Eliminating Systemic Barriers to Ensure Every Child Can Thrive.” 

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Dr. Jamie Cho, an assistant teaching professor of justice in early learning at the University of Washington and Ninderjit Gill, tenured early childhood education faculty at North Seattle College, join host Heather Bernt-Santy to discuss their article, “Who Gets to Be Neutral? The Respectability Politics of Leading for Educational Justice.” 

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Emily Clark, aka “EarlyEdEm” on instagram, has some thoughts to share about the impact of trying to make a profit off of attempts to assess quality in early childhood settings. Can true quality be commodified? Do attempts to make money off of quality child care fit with what research tells us are indicators of quality? We don’t think so. 

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In the third episode of this series on “quality” in early care and education, play advocate Kisa Marx joins host Heather Bernt-Santy for an important conversation about how too often, our standards for quality do not center the child. As part of the conversation, they discuss Heather’s decision to reject the industry standard descriptor  “developmentally appropriate” in favor of more child-centering terms like “developmentally informed” and “developmentally responsive.”

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In this episode, care advocate and author Carol Garboden Murray and host Heather Bernt-Santy share stories of being told that if we want anyone to pay attention to early childhood, we need to stop talking about “care.” How in the world did we get here? There is no “quality” without “care.”

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In this first episode in a new series about quality in early care and education, host Heather Bernt-Santy talks with Deb Lawrence and Lisa Murphy about her concerns that some of our ideas and tools for measuring “quality” often lead to early care and education settings where play is devalued or simply doesn’t exist. 

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“Mike Asks Heather” is back! In the “Mike Asks Heather” episodes, Mike Huber has listened to a previous episode of the show, and asks host Heather Bernt-Santy some follow up questions.

In this episode, Mike has relistened to TECN episode 226, where Heather interviewed Dr Lori Desautels, author of the book Connections Over Compliance. The conversation starts with Mike inviting Heather to make some connections between that interview and her current work writing a book about schema play and advocacy. 

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