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Join Michael in his conversation with Janet Wallach about her new book, Flirting with Danger: The Mysterious Life of Marguerite Harrison, Socialite Spy which chronicles the life of Marguerite Harrison, America’s first female spy.
Janet Wallach has written extensively about notable women in history, from the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East. Her book, Desert Queen; The Extraordinary Life of Gertrude Bell (1996), has been translated into twelve languages and was a New York Times notable book of the year.
As a contributor to The Washington Post Magazine, Smithsonian Magazine and other periodicals, Janet Wallach has written cover story profiles of Queen Noor of Jordan, First Lady of Egypt Jihan Sadat, and Iraqi Ambassador Nizar Hamdoon. Wallach has taught at Bradford College, Earlham College, St. Olaphs College and more.
Janet Wallach is a founding director and president emeritus of Seeds of Peace, a non-profit educational and leadership training program. Seeds of Peace brings together outstanding teenagers from regions in conflict including Israelis and Arabs, Indians and Pakistanis, and Americans of diverse backgrounds.
Join Michael in his conversation with Katie Couric about her most interesting memoir, Going There, which chronicles her groundbreaking professional career while also intimately telling the story of her life beyond our TV screens.
Katie is an award-winning journalist, a New York Times bestselling author, co-founder of her non-profit, Stand Up To Cancer and the co-founder of Katie Couric Media which produces documentaries, a digital video series, a podcast (Next Question with Katie Couric), and a daily Newsletter, Wake-Up Call.
Katie’s awards include a duPont Columbia, a Peapody, two Eward R. Murrows, a Walter Chronkite, multiple Emmys, and the American Cancer Society Medal of Honor.
Join Michael in his conversation with Steven Ujifusa about his new book The Last Ships from Hamburg: Business, Rivalry, and The Race to Save Russia’s Jews on the Eve of World War I which chronicles the efforts to save Russian Jews from Czarist Russian pogroms.
Steven is a historian who chronicles the confluence of American business, social, and maritime history. He is the recipient of the Washington Irving Medal for Literary Excellence from the Saint Nicholas Society of the City of New York, a MacDowell artist residency, and the Athenaeum of Philadelphia's Literary Award for Non-Fiction.
Join Michael in his conversation with Fergus Bordewich about his new book, Klan War: Ulysses S. Grant and the Battle to Save Reconstruction, which tells the story how President Grant, his attorney general, Amos Akerman, and Major Lewis Merrill led the successful, multi-year assault on the Ku Klux Klan.
Fergus is one of the leading independent historians writing on 18th and 19th America. He is the author of eight previous award-winning non-fiction books including The First Congress: How James Madison, George Washington and a Group of Extraordinary Men Invented the Government which won the D.B. Hardeman Prize in American History.
Purchase Klan War here.
Join Michael in his conversation with Dave Kindred as they discuss his new memoir My Home Team: A Sportswriter’s Life and the Redemptive Power of Small-Town Girls Basketball which details the arc of his award-winning career from one of sports most storied writers to his return home to cover a local girl's high school basketball team.
Dave has covered sports for numerous newspapers and periodicals over a fifty-year career. He is one of only two sports writers who have earned sports writing’s three highest honors: The Red Smith Award, The PEN America ESPN Lifetime Achievement Award, and the Dan Jenkins Medal for Excellence in Sports writing. He is a member of the National Sports Media Hall of Fame.
Order your copy of Dave's book here.
Step into this insightful conversation between Michael Zeldin and Doug Melville on the latest episode of "That Said." Together, they explore the narrative of Doug's new book, Invisible Generals: Rediscovering Family Legacy, and a Quest to Honor America’s First Black Generals. This remarkable true story unveils the pivotal roles played by Benjamin O. Davis, Sr., and Jr., America’s first Black generals, in integrating the military and fostering the iconic Tuskegee Airmen.
Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Edward L. Ayers about his fascinating new book American Visions: The United States, 1800-1860 which explores the revealing history of this most formative period in US history when voices of dissent and innovation help create visions of America still resonant today.
Professor Ayers is Tucker-Boatwright Professor of the Humanities at the University of Richmond, where he is President Emeritus. President Barack Obama awarded him the National Humanities Medal in 2013, hailing his "commitment to making our history as widely available and accessible as possible."
Professor Ayers has written prizewinning books on the history of the United States. They include In the Presence of Mine Enemies: Civil War in the Heart of America, winner of the Bancroft Prize and the Beveridge Prize; and The Promise of the New South: Life After Reconstruction, a finalist for the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize, and The Thin Light of Freedom: The Civil War and Emancipation in the Heart of America, winner of the Lincoln Prize and the Organization of American Historians’ prize for best book on the Civil War era. His most recent books are Southern Journey: The Migrations of the American South, 1790-2020 and American Visions: The United States, 1800-1860.
On today’s show, we will be speaking with Scott Eyman about his fascinating new book, Charlie Chaplin vs. America, When Art, Sex, and Politics Collided which explores the life and times of the movie genius leading to his banishment from the United States in 1952.
On today’s show we will be speaking Dr. Sanjay Gupta about his book Keep Sharp:Build a Better Brain at any Age which tackles the subject of brain health from the perspective of what we can do to build and maintain a better brain to prevent cognitive decline.
Dr. Gupta is an Associate Professor of neurosurgery at Emery University School of Medicine, a member of the National Academy of Medicine, and CNN’s Emmy Award-winning chief medical correspondent.
He is also the host of the podcast Chasing Life. This coming season he will discussing weight and health including an exploration of the new weight-loss drugs on the market.
Join Michael in his conversation with Jane Fox about her new book The Hungry Mother: Recipes for Recovery and Life in the Kitchen which traces Jane’s past struggles with addiction, her recovery, and how cooking and faith provided a path to sustained sobriety
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Jane is a NY State Certified Recovery Peer Advocate and co-founder of NERALI, a sobriety resources for the Long Island Jewish Community. She is a leading advocate for incorporating structured culinary workshops into drug and alcohol recovery programs.
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