In this episode, Cally's guests are Esther Rantzen and her daughter Rebecca Wilcox on mums, daughters, fame, families, assisted dying, campaigning, Gogglebox, elocution, loneliness, philanthropy and legacy.

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Childline

Silverline

Campaign for Dignity in Dying

BBC Morning Live

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

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Music by Jake Yapp

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