Sarah talks to ultramarathoner Kelaine Conochan about her experience training for and running Badwater 135, the world's toughest footrace. Kelaine discusses going without AC in the summer in Washington DC to train for the heat, how she was groomed to believe that toughness is currency, and what Type 2 fun is. Plus, hear from the Do Crew as they take their first steps.

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Sarah talks to neuroscientist Daniel Levitin about the work he's done with the brain and music, trying to figure out where goosebumps come from, why we are drawn to the music of our youth, why he believes that music is an evolutionary adaptation, and the meaning and inspiration behind his new album Sex & Math.

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Sarah talks to the breakout star of Mindy Kaling's HBO show Sex Lives of College Girls, Amrit Kaur, about how she fell in love with drama in high school without being able to take drama classes because her parents didn't consider it a serious subject, how much she was sweating during her audition for Sex Lives, what it was like to film a naked party scene, what her parents thought of her sex positive character, a pants ripping story, and how participating in a beauty pageant helped her come to terms with her aesthetic.

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Sarah talks to the captain of the US Women's Hockey team, Kendall Coyne, about the challenges she faced trying to play hockey as a kid including getting pennies thrown at her when she was 10 in a boys tournament, the successful almost boycott of the World Championships in 2017, participating in the fastest skate during the 2019 NHL All-Star festivities, and her new book As Fast As Her. Plus, more stories about people making big life changes and the unveiling of the Do Crew.

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Sarah welcomes back famed television writer and producer Mike Schur for a record third time. They catch up on their past conversations including the changes in Hollywood as a result of #MeToo and the racial reckoning in the summer of 2020. Then they discuss Mike's new book, "How To Be Perfect" and how his pursuit of living a moral life led to the creation of The Good Place and the realization that he can be really annoying about certain things.

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It's an action packed episode of That's What She Said. Sarah talks to Herminia Ibarra, an organizational behavior professor, about the three phases of making a major life change. Then she chats with Dr. Katy Milkman, an economist, about the importance of committing to the small steps and having a plan to tackle a big life goal. And finally Sarah talks to three of her friends who made or are in the process of making big career leaps.

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Sarah talks to gold medal winning skier Lindsey Vonn about her new memoir in which she details her battles with depression and body image, the litany of injuries she overcame throughout her record setting career, the times her competitiveness may have gotten the best of her, and the difficulty of retirement.

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Listen to Sarah's conversation with author Gretchen Rubin for useful tips about habit forming that can lead to greater happiness. Plus, Sarah is trying to assemble a crew for 2022. Details on how you can be a part of it are within this episode.

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Sarah talks to photographer Robyn Rachel about how landing a NASCAR driver's wedding got her photos in People Magazine and accelerated her career, how a rare genetic disease forced her to make tough decisions about her future, and how she and her husband adapted after the pandemic threw a giant wrench in their grand plans. Plus, Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner does the Spanish Inquisition.

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Friends of the pod air their sports grievances, often with a nod to their fan allegiances. Then Sarah recounts the year in sports in rhyme. It's a labor of love, but worth it every time.

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