This is a Game Dev Podcast with my guest Erick Passos from Photon Engine (Exit Games Inc.), a company that provides networking solutions and server architecture for online multiplayer games. I try to understand more about how how online multiplayer works in general and in particular how to use Photon's Quantum and Fusion to develop online games faster.

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➤ Photon Engine: https://www.photonengine.com/

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0:00 - Intro

0:17 - The 3 Layers of Multiplayer Tech

4:56 - Photon’s Products Across the Stack

6:54 - Transport Layers & Steam Relay Limitations

8:02 - Fusion vs Quantum + Designing for the Envelope

10:36 - Start from the Top: When Transport‑Only Makes Sense (MMOs, Server Logic)

15:53 - From PUN to Modern Netcode + Notable Games

21:21 - State Replication vs Determinism Explained

24:49 - Why Shooters Prefer Client‑Server (Lag Comp, Interest Mgmt)

26:11 - Server Build, Shared Mode, and Architecture Clarified

28:04 - Anti‑Cheat in Quantum: Replays, Spectators, Server Sim

31:49 - Grow Gradually: From Zero Servers to Full Validation

34:38 - Under the Hood: Predict‑Rollback, Physics, ECS, AI

38:32 - No Ring Buffer: Constant‑Time Rollbacks

45:28 - Testing Online, Tooling, and Community

46:15 - When to Use Fusion Instead of Quantum

50:29 - Performance: Verified vs Predicted, Clamps & Culling

52:34 - Bots, Matchmaking Math, and AI Costs

56:49 - AI Design: Verified‑Only Planning + Operational Prediction

58:02 - Verified‑Only Code Paths & Performance Targets

01:01:48 - Time Slicing AI for Stability

01:02:52 - RTS in Quantum: Flow Fields, Culling, and Use Cases

01:09:19 - Lockstep vs Prediction: Why He Avoids Lockstep

01:12:04 - Handling Rollback Spikes with Scheduling Tricks

01:13:05 - Auto‑Battlers: Verified‑Only + Snapshot Interpolation

01:15:29 - Hidden Info & Simultaneous Decisions; Server‑Gated Commands

01:21:35 - Using Quantum Offline? Licensing & Terms

01:25:03 - Determinism, ECS, and Quantum’s Hybrid Tables

01:29:22 - Could There Be a Deterministic Engine Built on Quantum?

01:31:08 - Cross‑Engine Experiments & Engine Integrations

01:35:42 - Open Worlds: Fusion Player‑Hosted vs Quantum

01:37:10 - Quantum for Open Worlds: Voxels, Persistence, NavMesh, Procgen

01:46:08 - Where Engines Stand on Multiplayer (Unreal, Unity, Source)

01:51:32 - Pricing: Free 100 CCU and Scaling Costs

01:54:45 - Long‑Tail Costs & Keeping Servers Alive

01:57:40 - Game Preservation: LAN, Offline, and Local Servers

02:04:48 - What’s New: Fusion 2.1, Quantum 3.1, Unreal Betas

02:05:55 - First Multiplayer? Start Small and Prototype

02:08:12 - Prototyping: Quantum vs Fusion (Shared Mode)

02:10:30 - From Prototype to Production: Managing Complexity

02:14:11 - What Makes a Multiplayer Hit? Trends vs Design

02:16:29 - Fusion’s New Physics Forecasting

02:17:47 - Riding vs Making Trends (Landfall’s Streak)

02:21:02 - Dogfooding: Prototyping to Improve the Tools

02:24:26 - Closing & Thanks

My game "Thronefall":

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➤ Nintendo Switch: https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Games/Nintendo-Switch-download-software/Thronefall-2669627.html#Overview

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