The 4th Wave in Therapy

This podcast episode featured Dr. Mitchell Abrams (Mitch), a Canadian radiologist and founder of NextGen Health, discussing his journey from traditional medicine to embracing compassion and heart coherence practices. Dr. Abrams explained how his own heart condition and experience in India led him to discover ancient wisdom about energy and consciousness that was missing from Western medical approaches. He detailed the five elements of compassion (awareness, embodiment, common humanity, action, and relief) and described heart coherence as a measurable state where the heart and brain synchronize, creating optimal brain function and allowing prefrontal cortex control over the limbic system. The conversation covered practical applications of these concepts, including how heart coherence can be cultivated through specific breathing techniques and the "laser protocol" (lock on, synchronize, and radiate), with measurable tools like the HeartMath Global Coherence app available for tracking progress. Dr. Abrams shared his vision for creating global heart coherence networks and expressed optimism about a potential future renaissance driven by music, art, science, and technology that could transform human understanding and connection.

This episode of "The Fourth Wave in Therapy" featured a conversation between Peta and Dr. Amy Apigian, a double board-certified physician in preventative and addiction medicine and leading voice in trauma biology. Dr. Apigian shared how her personal experience with grief and chronic fatigue syndrome in 2014 led her to discover the connection between trauma and physical health, prompting her to develop a body-based approach to healing trauma. She explained her three-energy levels theory (calm and alive, high energy, and low energy) and how the nervous system shifts between these states in response to perceived danger, using the metaphor of a turtle retreating into its shell during overwhelming situations. Dr. Apigian discussed the importance of allowing time for physiological recovery and challenged the cultural emphasis on resilience, defining true strength as the ability to feel and process emotions rather than pushing through difficulties. She outlined her approach of "precision nervous system healing" which integrates mind, body, and biology assessment to create personalized healing plans, and expressed frustration with the medical field's slow adoption of trauma-informed care despite early research on adverse childhood experiences.

This podcast episode featured Dr Peta interviewing Dr. Siri Erickson, a certified menopause doula and clinical EFT practitioner who developed the Meno EFT method. They discussed the biological changes during perimenopause, including hormone fluctuations that can lead to anxiety, sleep issues, and other symptoms, with Siri explaining how declining progesterone and erratic estrogen levels impact the brain and nervous system. Siri shared her personal journey through perimenopause and how she discovered EFT as an effective tool for managing anxiety and other symptoms. They explored how EFT creates a safe space for addressing emotional challenges during menopause, with Siri noting that the method combines somatic experiences with compassionate conversation to help clients develop self-compassion. The conversation covered common misconceptions about menopause, including the belief that estrogen deficiency is problematic when hormone sensitivity to fluctuations is often the real issue. They discussed the importance of considering both psychological and biological factors when addressing menopause symptoms, with Siri emphasizing the need for integrated approaches that include medical testing for issues like iron deficiency. The episode concluded with information about Siri's upcoming Meno EFT online course, which will provide structured guidance for applying EFT techniques to menopause-related challenges.

This episode of "Fourth Wave in Therapy" featured an interview with Yves Wauthier-Freymann, creator of the Self-Emotional Balancing method, discussing his journey from personal trauma to developing an integrated approach to treating complex trauma and attachment disorders. Yves shares his background in psychotherapy and energy psychology, including training with various modalities like EFT, REMAP, and Internal Family Systems, leading him to develop a comprehensive approach that combines somatic stimulation, primitive reflex integration, and compassion-based techniques. He explained how his method addresses both the physical body memories and the mental control mechanisms that can block healing in traditional talk therapy, emphasising the importance of heart connection and self-compassion in repairing attachment disorders. The conversation highlights Yves’ belief that effective trauma treatment requires practitioners to understand multiple modalities and adapt them systematically to individual needs, with a focus on body-mind integration and the role of love and compassion in healing.

 In this engaging conversation, Dr Peta Stapleton and Marcus Pearce explore the themes of longevity, life design, and the cultural practices of blue zones that contribute to exceptional aging. They discuss the importance of purpose, connection, and active learning in fostering a fulfilling life. The conversation emphasizes the need to shift beliefs about aging and the significance of shared meals and mindfulness in enhancing quality of life. Marcus shares insights from his research and interviews with centenarians, highlighting the simple yet profound practices that can lead to a longer, healthier life.

No matter your family history or your genes, Marcus Pearce believes that it’s not all downhill from here and that your best years are in front of you, not behind you.

Marcus Pearce is a longevity and life design strategist and host of 100 Not Out, Australia’s longest running podcast on ageing well and longevity.

He is the author of the best-selling book Your Exceptional Life and each year takes small groups to the European Blue Zones of Sardinia and the Greek Island Ikaria - known as the island where people forget to die.

Marcus has spent the past decade interviewing and researching more than 200 of the world’s centenarians, graceful agers, health professionals and icons of humanity.

Website: www.marcuspearce.com.au

Email: [email protected]

Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/marcus-pearce 

In this episode, Dr Peta Stapleton interviews Emma Gray, a clinical psychologist and meditation teacher, about her mission to support women in discovering their soul's calling. Emma shares her personal journey, the tools she uses to help clients overcome self-doubt, and the integration of science and spirituality in therapy. They discuss common limiting beliefs that hold women back, the importance of self-care, and Emma's aspirations for the future.

Emma Gray is a bestselling author, Clinical Psychologist, coach, and meditation teacher. Her mission is to support women who want to make a difference in the world. She helps women break through self-doubt and limiting beliefs to follow their Soul Calling and create lives (and businesses) they truly love. Emma is deeply passionate (some might say obsessed!) with meditation, tapping, and the intersection between science and spirituality. She brings together nerdy neuroscience and soulful wisdom in a way that's both practical and transformational to help her clients create more ease, joy and abundance in their lives.

Her international bestselling book, Inspired Living, is co-authored with Dr Larry Farwell, a Harvard-trained neuroscientist and quantum physicist, featured in Time Magazine’s Top 100 Innovators of the Century.

Emma lives on Sydney’s northern beaches with her family.

Website: https://emmagray.net/ 

Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/emma-gray 

In this episode of the Fourth Wave in Therapy podcast, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Gavin Abeyratne, exploring the intersection of leadership, personal development, and innovative therapeutic practices. They discuss the emergence of the fourth wave in therapy, the impact of limiting beliefs on leadership, and the importance of understanding the six forces of change that affect personal and professional growth. Gavin shares insights on the role of psychedelic-assisted therapy, the concept of integral alchemy, and practical tools for self-discovery, emphasizing the relational nature of self and the importance of community in personal development. In this engaging conversation, Gavin Abeyratne and Dr. Peta Stapleton explore themes of personal growth, visualization, and emotional balance through guided meditation techniques. They discuss the importance of social influences, the process of visualizing future successes, and the dynamics of energy flow within the body. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of acknowledging both positive and negative feelings, embracing possibilities, and trusting the timing of life transitions. The session culminates in reflections on the experience and insights gained, along with resources for further exploration.

Gavin Abeyratne is an autodidactic polymath that likes big words and even bigger visions. When he's not writing about himself in the 3rd person, he's studying consciousness or spending time with his wife, two lovely daughters and cat in Melbourne, Australia.

My vision is to call in the best and brightest, and synergise our collective capability to catalyse an elevation in consciousness... no big deal.

Website: https://www.integralalchemy.com.au/ 

Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/gavin-abeyratne 

In this engaging conversation, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Dr. Lorne Brown, exploring the intersection of acupuncture and tapping therapies like EFT. They discuss how emotions are stored in the body, the importance of daily tapping for emotional regulation, and the impact of cosmetic procedures on acupoints. The conversation delves into specific acupoints, their significance, and how understanding these can enhance the effectiveness of tapping therapies. In this enlightening conversation, Lorne Brown and Dr. Peta Stapleton delve into the intricate relationship between acupuncture, EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques), and emotional health. They explore how tapping therapies can facilitate emotional release, the importance of understanding acupuncture points, and the potential contraindications in therapy. The discussion emphasizes the integration of EFT and acupuncture for a holistic approach to healing, highlighting the significance of staying present with emotions during the process.

Dr. Lorne Brown is the Clinical Director of Acubalance Wellness Centre, and the of Founder Pro D Seminars, Medigogy, and the Integrative Fertility Symposium. After a career as a Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA), Lorne received his Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine at Vancouver’s International College of Traditional Chinese Medicine, Lorne has extensive postgraduate training in gynecology, obstetrics, and reproductive medicine. In 2012, Lorne published the Acubalance Fertility Diet which is made available for free through the Acubalance website.

Dr. Brown has successfully integrated his entrepreneurial skills and background as a CPA with his passion for Chinese Medicine establishing a very successful fertility practice (Acubalance.ca) and pioneering online continuing education through Pro D Seminars and Medigogy.com as well as the Integrative Fertility Symposium for Chinese Medicine Practitioners worldwide.

I am passionate about helping my patients harness their inner healer and become active participants in their own healthcare. I strongly believe in the importance of an integrative approach to health, which led me to establish the Acubalance Wellness Centre in 2000. I continually seek out and obtain certification in various energy psychology / belief change modalities – including clinical hypnotherapy, Neuro-Linguistic Programming, PSYCH-K Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) and Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) – and I incorporate these belief change modalities in my acupuncture & laser sessions with my patients. My aim is to empower them to take the reins of their physical and emotional well-being. In addition to my role as Clinical Director at Acubalance Wellness Centre, I founded Healthy Seminars to provide acupuncturists and functional medicine practitioners with access to a comprehensive selection of online continuing education courses. In 2015, I founded the Integrative Fertility Symposium, which is the largest conference focusing on treating reproductive health issues using an integrative approach.

Website: https://lornebrown.com/ 

Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-lorne-brown 

In this episode, Dr. Peta Stapleton reconnects with Kerry Neilson, a quantum empowerment and transformation coach. They explore the cultural misconceptions surrounding change, the significance of personal awakening, and the interplay between science and spirituality in the transformation process. Kerry shares her profound journey of recovery from alcoholism, emphasising the importance of surrender, self-compassion, and identity change. The conversation culminates in an introduction to Kerry's course, 'Wired for Wonder,' which aims to guide individuals through their own transformation journeys.

Kerry Neilson (M.Ed Studies in Guidance & Counselling, Dip. Gestalt Therapy) is a Gestalt therapist, writer, and former high school guidance counsellor and educator. With over 25 years’ experience, she specialises in helping people move through major life transitions. She is the author of the upcoming book Whole, Not Wholesome: How to Fall Apart, Wake the Hell Up and Let Your Pieces Become Power. Kerry also offers courses and webinars on spirituality, resilience, crisis, and personal transformation.

Learn more at https://www.kerryneilson.com.au/ 

Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/kerry-neilson 

In this enlightening conversation, Peta Stapleton speaks with Dr Tomas Frymann, founder of As We Wake, about the transformative potential of psychedelic therapy. They explore Tomas's personal journey with psychedelics, the profound experiences of oneness, and the scientific underpinnings of how psychedelics can aid in mental health treatment, particularly for PTSD. The discussion emphasizes the importance of integration after psychedelic experiences and the future of psychedelics in mental health care.

Dr. Tomas Frymann is the founder of As We Wake, an organization dedicated to connecting culture to Interbeing through psychedelics. He completed his Ph.D. in the Spirituality and Psychology Lab at Columbia University, is an initiate of the Bwiti tradition, and has facilitated and experienced 100’s of psychedelic ceremonies worldwide with psilocybin, ayahuasca, iboga, and 5-MeO-DMT. In his many years of psychotherapy experience he has worked with veterans, cancer patients, university students, and ICU patients. Dr. Frymann authored the first empirical measurements of Psychedelic Integration and Interbeing Identity, which have been translated into multiple languages and adopted by psychedelic facilitation centers globally. He has presented his work at major forums including the United Nations and Harvard University, and is featured on the following podcasts: Universe Within, 10 Laws Podcast, Psychedelic medicine Podcast, End of the Road Podcast. Dr. Frymann is also a former professional skimboarder and general ocean sports aficionado.

Website: www.aswewake.com

Instagram: @aswewake 

Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-tomas-frymann