The Adelaide Show

Welcome to the landmark 400th episode of The Adelaide Show! This week, we’re celebrating a significant milestone with a special guest, Lord Mayor, Dr Jane Lomax-Smith AM. Our discussion delves into the challenges and opportunities of balancing heritage preservation with modern development in Adelaide, especially in the face of growing pressures to modernise historical sites.

Oh, and does Steve Davis sneak into the Adelaide Town Hall and play the famous pipe organ?

The SA Drink of the Week segment is a fitting tribute to Adelaide’s history, because we sip a beverage connected to Colonel William Light, the city’s founder. Join us as we explore the historical and cultural significance of this choice in a lively and insightful taste test.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we round out our celebration, with The Saucermen performing a song that resonates with the themes of heritage and progress.

Join us for this milestone episode as we blend history, music, and community conversation, marking eleven years of showcasing the passions that shape South Australia.

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The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

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Running Sheet: Balancing Heritage And Progress With The Adelaide Lord Mayor

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:03:50 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week this week is a Penfolds Club Port.

This was chosen because I had recently met the Lord Mayor at Colonel William Light’s birthday celebration at the Adelaide Town Hall, an annual event since 1859 that honours Adelaide’s founder. On April 27 each year, a group of people invited by the Lord Mayor, commemorate Light’s influence on the city’s layout with Australian Port, symbolically drunk from a historic silver bowl. Curiously, though, we each had separate slices of a special fruit cake and separate glasses of wine instead of sharing from the bowl. I asked the Lord Mayor why that was?

00:10:03 Adelaide Lord Mayor, Dr Jane Lomax-Smith AM

Here we are, crafting a very special 400th episode of The Adelaide Show, where we’ve been shining a spotlight on South Australia’s passionate people for 11 intriguing years. Today, we’re joined by Lord Mayor Dr Jane Lomax-Smith AM, at a time when the echoes of Adelaide’s pioneering spirits are being tested by the drumbeats of modern development. Together, we’ll delve into how we can cherish and protect our city’s rich heritage while steering towards progressive change, a topic sparked by the recent uproar over The Cranker’s near-demolition. Dr. Lomax-Smith brings a wealth of experience from her dual roles as a former state minister and our current Lord Mayor, promising insights that bridge our past with the future. Welcome.

This interview has extra signficance for me because it completes the trifecta of having had three Lord Mayors (everything inside me wants to say Lords Mayor) on our podcast. Stephen Yarwood got the ball rolling by drawing the ire of Peter Goers who lambasted him and us and gave us some profile, then Martin Haese was part of the program, playing some guitar, too, and today we have the honour of your company as we mark this milestone episode. What is it like, being in a role that is often called upon to mark special occasions and anniversaries, even though such things are purely arbitrary?

When we began this podcast enterprise in 2013, we were motivated by the ubiquitous, lazy linking of Adelaide with the word, boring. We fought a strong fight and discovered that much of that slander had diminished by episode 80, which is when we marked our transition from Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide to our current name of The Adelaide. Do you think we have shaken off that connection? Do you find it still lingers?

A psychologist we interviewed, Alexandra Frost from Attuned Psychology, noted that people are largely in control of how “boring” their surroundings are. You could be just as bored in New York as Adelaide, if you stayed in your room and moped about. On the other hand, I often find that some of the criteria used to judge a city boring, relate to a desperate need for artificial, external stimulation, rather than taking responsibility for finding intrinsinc motivation for engaging with one’s surroundings. Furthermore, sometimes unique character gets marked down in the race to have the same stimuli that other towns have. How does a town craft and “own” confidence in its own skin?

At Colonel Light’s birthday celebration, you spoke passionately about the need to get the balance right between preservation and progress. What criteria do you believe should be used to determine which older buildings in Adelaide are worth preserving?

The recent controversy surrounding The Cranker has highlighted tensions between heritage preservation and urban development. What lessons can be learned from this situation?

I’ve performed stand up comedy at The Cranker, so it has a soft spot for me but many of us are not quite ready to relax about its future, given the risks of “accidental damage” during construction, such as the potential for a wrecking ball to inadvertently damage a heritage building. This is the dilemma for people protecting heritage vs developers – once we have lost what was there it is gone, whereas a developer can easily rebuild or reshape their construction. Is this just an age old source of anxiety that heritage proponents just have to live with?

Prepare yourself. This will be the longest question ever constructed: The Cranker is special to me because I have performed there. The old Bank Of Adelaide building was special because my dad and grandpa worked on it with their business, Field and Davis Constructions (in fact, my dad, Barry Davis, tells me he swung in there one Saturday afternoon and installed the three flag poles on the roof, all by himself). Other parts are or have been significant because we might have seen The Beatles wave from a balcony, or a premiership team parade through streets, etc. I wonder if we can reflect on the ephemeral nature of what it means to protect heritage items. This question hit me while listening to US comedian and commentator, Bill Maher, interview some children and he was surprised that very few of them had even heard of Elvis Presley and almost none of them thought there was any reason to be interested in his story. So, when we pass on, the connection between our lived experience and The Beatles on a balcony, passes on too, either with us, or when our following generation passes on. Deep in the DNA of the Heritage Inclination, is there a sense that we are vainly trying to fight the realisation that time and memories pass quickly, like sand through our fingers, and that, ultimately, it is a losing battle or one of little everlasting value because nothing is everlasting?

Would you indulge me in an imagination exercise? There was once a majestic building on the corner of Rundle Street and Frome Road called the Grand Central Hotel, where Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and many other illuminaries stayed during visits to Adelaide. It was built in 1910 on the site of the former York Hotel and was demolished in 1975-76 to make way for the Hungry Jacks car park. How would that part of the city be different today, had that building been maintained? And, yes, we could play this game with many other buildings; I’d just love to hear you think out loud about this.

The nature of city-based employment and engagement does seem to be fast-paced, head down, etc, which is why traversing these streets in the extremes of temperature can be trying. I am often reminded of Lovin’ Spoonful’s lyrics:

Hot town, summer in the city
Back of my neck gettin’ dirty and gritty
Been down, isn’t it a pity?
Doesn’t seem to be a shadow in the city
All around, people lookin’ half dead
Walkin’ on the sidewalk, hotter than a match head

When we are in commuter, survival mode, I guess we just don’t have head space for appreciating the environment. But, have our town planners and landlords also gotten some things wrong by not providing for human spaces between the buildings?

Scientists tell us that just being surrounded by greenery in nature, actively helps calm our nervous systems. Do you think there’s a subliminal effect we get from built environs?

If someone is thinking about moving to the city to live, what sort of mindset would allow them to benefit the most from city life and contribute the most?

00:44:03 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Valley of the Rattling Bones by The Saucermen.

We’ve previously played The Saucermen right back in our early days with One Day Dry in episode 13, and The Ghost Of Johnny Cash in episode 28.

In 2004, The Saucermen released their first original EP “Valley of the Rattling Bones”, penned by the lead singer and rhythm guitarist, Steve O’Malley, and and inspired by a co-worker’s warning. It set the wheels in motion for the band to write more original tunes. The guys love this song and love playing it and I think it fits for this episode because you could argue that Adelaide, like any city that’s been around for a while, is a valley of bones, to some degree, when you consider all the people whose lives have intersected with it. And, secondly, we’ve just been talking about how some of our early buildings have really stood the test of time and this song is a musical equivalent of that. Hope you enjoy it.

And if you hear this in time, you can catch The Saucermen (along with Weekend Rage and The Overits) on Saturday, August 31 at The Cranker. Tickets via Try Booking.

You can follow The Saucermen on MySpace and Facebook.

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Welcome to episode 399 of “The Adelaide Show”, where spirits soar as high as our conversations dive deep! This episode is a playful showdown between Port Adelaide’s finest, Michelle and Michael, and Adelaide Football Club’s spirited duo, Tina and Alexis. Join us as they taste and spar over the Carn The Pear Gin from Never Never Distilling Co and The Adelaide Crows 2024 Players Recipe Gin from Prohibition Gin. It’s not just about the flavours but also the fiery fun that ensues when these passionate fans face off. Plus, we’re delighted to have John Gledhill, expert winemaker and judge, to share his refined insights after the main event.

In The Musical Pilgrimage, we finish with a new song from Professor Flint.

The whole program is the SA Drink Of The Week, this week.

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The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It’s an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we’ll add you to the list: [email protected]

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Running Sheet: The Inaugural South Australian Gin Showdown

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:03:43 SA Drink Of The Week

In this uniquely spirited episode, we set the stage for an unforgettable showdown between fans of The Power and The Crows. Each team not only champions their club but also their corresponding gin in a taste test filled with cheers and friendly jeers. Michelle and Michael carry the banner for The Power with the vibrant Carn The Pear Gin, while Tina and Alexis back The Crows with the bold Adelaide Crows 2024 Players Recipe Gin. The gins, each crafted by renowned South Australian distilleries, reflect the distinct personalities and heritages of their AFL teams.

As the tasting concludes, the atmosphere shifts from competitive to contemplative with the arrival of John Gledhill. With a palate honed in Australia’s wine country and a plethora of judging experiences, John offers a professional critique that adds depth to the playful banter of our tasters. His expert commentary not only enlightens but also celebrates the craftsmanship behind each gin.

00:48:33 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Dance With Me by Lizzie Hosking.

Rounding out the episode, we dive into the musical world with Professor Flint’s intriguing song, “The Demon Duck of Doom.” This track brings to life the tale of Dromornis stirtoni, a colossal prehistoric bird native to Australia, blending science with melody to captivate and educate.

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Hello and welcome to the episode we are referring to, internally, as "Rolling Dough and Raising Spirits" or should that be "Raising Dough and Rolling Spirits"? It's about The SA Variety Bash which is underway today, the day we are releasing this episode (10th August 2024), and the main interview was recorded inside Car 13 The Bakers, which my company, Talked About Marketing, helped sponsor. So, you'll be right there amid the rumbling of a 1991 Commodore, as we cruise with a crew that mixes baking with benevolence. I talk about Darren Sutton from Kytons Bakery, along with his mates Julian Stone and Chris Madeley, as they put the finishing touches to the car before they drive thousands of kilometres to support the work of Variety. And when I say "finishing touches", I mean touches they needed to avoid the car being finished (yes, we spent an hour with the car on a hoist while last minute work was done, related to the transmission - luckily, that's not a critical part of the car).

In The Musical Pilgrimage, we finish with a musical detour with 'Dance With Me' by Adelaide’s own Lizzie Hosking, adding a rhythm to our ride that’s got to make it onto the road trip playlists of all participants this year, especially Mr Fresh FM, Chris Madeley.

There is no SA Drink Of The Week, this week.

You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it.

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Running Sheet: Baking A Difference

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week.

00:03:39 Car 13 The Bakers - SA Variety Bash

Welcome to a high-octane interview on The Adelaide Show, recorded live from the back seat of the infamous Car 13, The Bakers, who are heading off on this year's SA Variety Bash. Joining me on the road are Darren Sutton from Kytons Bakery (where we're leaving from) and his mates, Julian Stone and Chris Madeley.

Start Your Engine!

Darren, this is your 20th Bash over the last 25 years, could you kick things off by telling us what sparked the idea to enter Car 13 into the Variety Bash? What's the backstory of 'The Bakers' getting together for this cause?

We're in a 1990 Commodore. How did you go about choosing and kitting out a car for the Bash? What are some of the wildest modifications you've made or seen on the rally?

What's a typical day like during the Bash? From dawn till dusk, walk us through the highs and the unexpected turns.

When it comes to planning supplies, what are the absolute must-haves in your vehicle? Any quirky items that you wouldn’t hit the road without?

Road Trip Playlist: What tunes are on your playlist for those long stretches? Who’s the DJ, and how do you settle the inevitable music disputes?

Long hours on the road can lead to cabin fever. What’s your strategy for keeping spirits high? Any favourite games or stories that come out during the drive?

How has participating in the Variety Bash changed your perspective on charity and community service?

Can you tell us about some of the most colourful characters or teams you've met during the Bash? Any rivalries or friendships forged along the way?

What’s the most unexpected thing that’s happened to you during previous Bashes? Any memorable breakdowns or surprising encounters?

Looking forward, what dream route or destination would you love the Variety Bash to tackle next?

For anyone thinking about joining the Bash for the first time, what advice would you give them to prepare both their car and their team?

Finally, if each of you had to describe your driving style using a famous movie or TV car, what would it be and why?

00:48:11 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Dance With Me by Lizzie Hosking.

Adelaide Singer Lizzie Hosking is a powerhouse vocalist with catchy melodies and fun story-telling. At a young age Lizzie was diagnosed with ASD, and has since navigated the world with resilience despite the challenges she faces in social interactions and societal misconceptions.  Through her love for music and determination, she uses her platform to advocate for understanding and acceptance of autism, inspiring others to embrace their diagnosis as a superpower and pursue their dreams with confidence.

Lizzie has found success as an independent artist releasing multiple singles, to be featured in worldwide press, receiving support from Spotify and Apple editorial and the team at Triple J Unearthed. In March ‘24 Lizzie made her first festival appearance at WOMADelaide delivering a mesmerizing vocal performance on the NSS Academy Stage.

Most recently Lizzie Hosking co-headlined Adelaide’s UniBar and was selected to play at Music South Australia’s “Scouted 2024”, proving Lizzie Hosking, one to watch.

Dance with me is a Dance Pop and Disco tune with influences from ABBA and Ariana Grande - just perfect for Chris Madeley from Car 13!

In Dance With Me, Lizzie empowers listeners to see their worth and tells the story of the fear of dimming your spark for someone else, however if they are willing to grow and shine with you then beautiful things can happen. She says this song is really about understanding your worth and preaching that to the masses.

Lizzie says Dance With Me is for the girls that need a reminder that they are fierce and amazing and there will also be someone and something to lift them up!

Dance With Me is on Spotify and Apple Music, and you can follow Lizzie there and on Instagram and TikTok.

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In this episode, we explore the textured life and inspirations of Chris Pitman, a South Australian actor and playwright. Chris discusses the upcoming season of his one-man show "Shore Break," at the Adelaide Festival Centre. The play, inspired by his encounters with societal "isolates" along the coast, delves into the poignant narratives of those living on the edges of society. Chris reflects on his Adelaide roots, his formative years by the beach, and the pivotal moments that shaped his artistic journey. He recounts his acting break in Neil Armfield's "Cloudstreet" and shares insights from his extensive career, including working with actors like Max Cullen.

The episode kicks off with the SA Drink of the Week, celebrating the Beresford Emblem Fiano 2023, a world-class wine that has clinched a 95-point Gold medal at the Decanter World Wine Awards. Our guest wine taster is John Gledhill of Gledhill Vignerons.

In our Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Darkness & Gold by My Chérie, a song that mirrors the introspective themes of Chris's play, exploring the facades we present and the hidden struggles within.

You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it.

And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here's our index of all episode in one concise
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Running Sheet: Chris Pitman From Beaches To The Stage

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:02:45 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is Beresford Estate’s Beresford Emblem Fiano 2023, which has just received exceptional recognition at the prestigious Decanter World Wine Awards, earning a 95-point Gold medal and ranking No.1 in this year's Fiano category, inaugurating it as the best Fiano in the world.

As we discuss with our guest wine taster, John Gledhill of Gledhill Vignerons, this wine earned the same score as some of the country’s best $100 white wines yet sells for just $25; a feat John says is not unheard of but very special when it happens at such shows.

In the discussion, we quote head winemaker, Chris Dix, discussing the remarkable growth of Fiano in McLaren Vale, since the Lloyd family planted the first Fiano vine 22 years ago.

The Beresford Emblem Fiano 2023 is available through the Beresford cellar door - the Beresford Tasting Pavilion in McLaren Vale.

00:15:45 Chris Pitman

Brink Productions will soon be presenting, Shore Break, as part of State Theatre’s Stateside season in the Space Theatre at the Adelaide Festival Centre from 3 – 7 September. I’m told this play is an interesting one man show written and performed by Chris Pitman, about a man on the outskirts of society who is finding his way back.

To make this play possible, Chris did some detailed research in campgrounds in the regions, along the coast talking to a number of outliers / “isolates” about their stories, and how they found themselves in their situations. It is from these stories that he derived inspiration for his play.
You grew up in Adelaide, attracted to the beach. Can you start by painting a picture of Adelaide and South Australia as you remembered it back then? Anything you miss, anything you’re glad has changed?

Did you hang out with lots of friends, or was there an essence of the “isolate” in you back then?

I note that you are a poster child for Steve Jobs’ famous quip – Just Ship It. Took you a few years to apply for acting school, but when you did actually send a letter to the Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts (WAAPA), you got accepted. Does an academy like that actually instil acting ability into you, or does it nurture what is already inside?

I note your first major break was auditioning for Neil Armfield for a major role in Tim Winton’s ‘Cloudstreet’, and you “somehow” got the job, moved to Sydney and suddenly started working with many famous and respected actors including, former guest of this podcast, Max Cullen. He was on episode 265, talking about Sunday Too Far Away, which was shot in South Australia. Did any Max Cullen rub off on you (or any of the actors) as you travelled overseas with that show?

I just heard Malcom MacDowell being interviewed by Bill Maher. Malcolm got his break with Clockwork Orange and is now busier than ever. He did admit that he had said yes to films that he did not like, just for the money, noting, as a professional actor, what else can you do. This is what scares me to the core on behalf of artists like you. Your existence is one of maintaining the confidence to lurch from one gig to the next. Did you have to work hard to adapt to that reality after such a dream start to your professional career?

One of our listeners, Anthony, has a young daughter, Alannah who is 11 and just went to an acting school on the Gold Coast and now has four agencies wanting to talk to you. I said she could ask you a couple of questions, given you have done a good smattering of TV work in shows like All Saits, Blue Heelers, and South Australian favourite, McLeod’s Daughters and TV/film is what is luring her.

First question, what was the first step in getting a role on TV?
Second question, what was your favourite thing you have been?

Alannah’s dad had reworded the second question as What character impacted you the most, and to me, that’s a great segue into Shore Break, because from the glowing and thoughtful reviews I’ve seen, this show gets you in the gut, which means it must have gotten you in the gut.
So, what attracts you to the world of the isolate?

I am profoundly jaundices by the ubiquity of smart phones and social media – I was originally a champion of them, now I am a voice saying they only LOOK like they are connecting us; they actually only deliver the confection of connection. Does that sentiment intersect with themes of the play?

Is there something significant about these loners being near the water? Would the story be the same in a landlocked situation?

Can you take us into your experience of chatting with these people because you note there was laughter along with very great pain. How did you earn that trust? Or was it easier than we might expect because you actually have them an ear inclined towards them?

The blurb for the show says: Simple and raw, addressing the search for human connection and meaning, in a life filled with rejection and regret, Shore Break elegantly depicts the vulnerability of masculinity through a tour de force performance, sharp writing, and an emotional sucker-punch you won’t see coming. We’ll keep the sucker punch secret but without spoiling the play, can you tell us if these outsiders do have lessons for us about meaning that we cannot find elsewhere?

I’m told that you describe working in theatre as a very insular experience, and just like surfing, they both require intensity and relaxation together. Does that seem to contrast the life of stable normalcy which is the gold standard in society’s narrative about itself?

The young director for this production is Chelsea Griffith who’s worked closely with ex-Artistic Director Chris Drummond, to direct this work. The US election made age a big issue. And we hear people grumble if their doctor is too young, etc, based on the assumption that age brings wisdom and insight. You’ve been around. Did you need to adapt your mindset in any way to take direction from someone who is establishing their career?

01:15:45 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Darkness & Gold by Chérie of My Chérie fame.

With rich metaphors and poignant lyrics, 'Darkness & Gold' invites listeners into a world of introspection and self-discovery. My Chérie explores the various personas we embody, from the curated versions we present on social media to the hidden depths of our innermost selves.

The song captures the essence of the human condition, highlighting the constant tension between aspiration and acceptance. Chérie says it’s her candid portrayal and deep dive into my human experience of the internal struggles we all face. In confronting themes of strength, vulnerability, and the pursuit of self-improvement, I want to acknowledge the efforts of trying and the tricky journey of figuring ourselves out.”

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We’re thrilled to bring you a unique blend of conversation and music. Uncle Ken Jones from the Boandik community is here to talk about his deep connection to country and his incredible life stories, all from the heart of the Limestone Coast. And we’ve got John Schumann, whose songs capture the Aussie spirit in ways that stick with you long after the music stops. Expect to hear a few tunes throughout our chat, each telling a story that ties back to South Australia and South Australians.

There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week.

And we have made John’s interview an extended edition of the Musical Pilgrimage.

You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We’re here to serve!

The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It’s an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we’ll add you to the list: [email protected]

If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store – The Adelaide Show Shop. We’d greatly appreciate it.

And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here’s our index of all episode in one concise
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Running Sheet: South Australian Storytellers

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

No SA Drink this week.

00:03:37 Uncle Ken Jones

Here on The Adelaide Show, we shine a spotlight on South Australian passion, and my guest has passion in spades. He is Uncle Ken Jones, who I’m sitting with during NAIDOC Week 2024. I met Uncle Ken through his work running the tourism business, Bush Adventures, down on the Limestone Coast, at Port MacDonnell, and I’m hoping we’ll capture some of his profound connection to country, some of his wild story, and some of his storytelling and wisdom. Uncle Ken, welcome to the Adelaide Show.

Uncle Ken, in a recent story about you published on SouthAustralia.com, you’ve said, “I’m part of the oldest continuous culture in the world.” How does this profound connection influence your daily life and values?

Your parents deliberately hid your Aboriginal roots from you for much of your childhood, and in the story – which I will link to in the show notes – you reflect that upon discovering your Aboriginal heritage, you mentioned, “It was a shame factor.” I’d love to explore how this change in understanding about your identity affect your sense of belonging within Australian society?
But just before you answer, I want to add something else. Your dad said he kept you identity a secret because, “Aboriginal people were not particularly loved or cared for in those days.” We’re just about to hear from singer songwriter, John Schumann, and we’ll be chatting about his song, On Every Anzac Day, which honours Aboriginal Australians who fought in the Australian army, defending someone else’s king and defending land that had been taken away from them. Later in the song, the returned serviceman went to join his local RSL but was rejected because the people there didn’t see a fellow soldier, they saw a black fella. Songs like that make me think I would have done the same as your father. But maybe there is a cost.

Storytelling is clearly vital in Aboriginal culture. I remember hearing some dreaming stories shared by Aboriginal philosopher and author, Tyson Yunkaporta, and one, in particular about a crow and a magpie, has stayed with me ever since. Every time I see one of those birds, I remember the story about listening to your elders. It was the first time I understood the power of storytelling for passing on knowledge. How do you see storytelling among the Boandik people as similar to or different from mainstream Australian stories and the stuff we see on Netflix?

You’ve worked tirelessly to forge connections and share your culture. What common grounds have you found most effective in bridging cultural divides?

Looking to the future, you’ve expressed being “dangerously optimistic” about preserving Boandik Country’s legacy. What are your hopes for the next generation of both Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal Australians in creating a more inclusive and understanding society?

00:29:58 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature an extended interview with John Schumann ahead of a special concert at The Gov on August 3, which we’ll be going to, in which John Schumann and the Vagabond Band will work through a stack of John’s back catalogue.

In an interview for an ABC radio documentary on John Schumann’s nation-changing song “I was only 19”, the noted rock historian Glenn A Baker concluded by saying “John Schumann is one of the finest songwriters this country has produced.” It’s hard to argue with that because John Schumann’s songs have that trace of red bulldust in them that is part bravado, part earthy wisdom, and they hang around your memory like flies in the Flinders Ranges. John, welcome back to The Adelaide Show.

John, you and the Vagabond Crew are doing a show with many of the John Schumann back catalogue numbers on August 3 at The Gov. And I did see a video clip of you bemoaning the fact that cover bands earn more money that original singer songwriters these days, so think of the concert as a John Schumann cover show. Clever stuff!!

We’re recording this chat during NAIDOC week 2024, so as part of our meander through some of your South Australian-specific songs, I want to start and end with two that involve First Nations stories. The first is On Every Anzac Day. Back in 2014, the then Chief of Army, LTGEN David Morrison, commissioned you to write a song to pay tribute to Indigenous men and women who served Australia because he was worried the Anzac Centenary was going to ignore them. Turns out he was right, in a way, because as the song documents beautifully, there’s the story of a black returned servicemen wanting to join his local RSL, only to be turned away because the people there only saw a black fella, not a soldier. Now, of course, when it comes to sacrifice and putting your life on the line, it’s not a competition but there’s something even more profound and filled with pathos and tragedy when you revere the fact that our Aboriginal soldiers put their lives on the line for someone else’s king to defend the land they had taken away from them. How does this song resonate with you today and have you seen any clarity in how to fathom the contrasts and the tragedy of these situations?
And who is singing with you on this?

In our last episode, 395, we waltzed through all the big political stories of the day and I was able to use five Redgum songs to set the context for each. The opposition’s call for nuclear power to be back on the agenda was accompanied by “Where Ya Gonna Run to?” There is the verse “Enrich the oxide out of Port Pirie and the toxic gases they won’t even see but where ya gonna go when the north wind blows, where ya gonna run to now”. Interestingly, there has been some fairly solid science to support nuclear energy over the years but as we pointed out last week, its time has passed. It takes too long to build, the costs will blow out, and we’ll be making more leaps and bounds with greener energy sources. Despite some of the work in its favour, you’re dead right in that song – a haunting thought is what happens when something goes wrong? Of course, that’s a quick, dramatic death, vs the slow drowning we’re all suffering from the burning of oil, gas, and coal. Where’s your thinking on this today?

In episode 394, we traced some South Australian links to the stories of Sherlock Holmes, including the ship, Bass Rock, which was mentioned in the story, The Adventure of the Abbey Grange, travelling from Adelaide to Southampton. Not all ships made it, of course, including the famous Star of Greece, which broke apart and ran aground in a violent storm off Port Willunga on the 13th July 1888. There’s some discrepancy in the actual number of lives lost, due to doubts about the number of people aboard the vessel when it left Port Adelaide, but most historians conclude that at least 18 perished. And one person who didn’t, was your great grandfather, who missed the boat and saved his life. Can you take us into this story some more, and the song that appears on Etched In Blue called Thunder Across The Reef?
Also, I have a recollection of hearing you perform this in Willunga – a special performance of etched in blue a long time ago – perhaps as part of a community arts project?

For the Children is a song you wrote in your last few months in Redgum. Your first child was two and you were getting dragged away on tour by Redgum’s management for 3 months at a time. For the Children explains, in part, why you left the band”. This is off rhyme or no rhyme – or really obtuse. Was that on purpose to invoke a mood of listlessness?
Who was the lady from the paper?
Have your kids ever used these words against you because sometimes we tap our higher, aspirational serves when writing and then life and foibles get in the way?

“Graduation Day”, is a poignant evocation of the toll taken on our police officers who are called to serve and protect our communities. It’s particularly raw here in the wake of the death of the son of our Police Commissioner, Grant Stephens. It was an unusual twist on the toll our people in blue pay. Another song about service in uniform. Some might think this contrasts with the Redgum bravado about ASIO printing out Redgum files so they can climb up to get to ours. Is it the writing class link between people on patrol?

I want to finish with “Just Fade Away”, in which we hear a story about explorer John McDouall Stuart. The people from the Arabana nation advised him to follow the birds if he wanted to find water. What a great story, connecting us back to Uncle Ken, too.
There’s a great Wall of sound – What’s making that haunting sound?

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You'll be sitting in on a unique and eclectic political analysis with our in-house pollster, Robert Godden. Inspired by the poignant lyrics of Redgum, we'll dissect the mood of the electorate and explore burning issues from nuclear energy debates to the controversies of political donations and the ongoing strain on South Australia's hospital system. We'll also debate the legacy of Frome and the critical funding battles between sports and the arts.

The SA Drink Of The Week this week is the new Australian whisky released by 23rd Street.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature the new song from Alison Newman, which delves into PND.

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Running Sheet: Redgum-flavoured Mid Year South Australian Politics Pulse Check

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:03:02 SA Drink Of The Week

For our SA Drink of the Week segment, we're diving into the craftsmanship behind 23rd Street Distillery's pioneering Australian Whisky.

23rd Street has taken quality Australian barley, and then distilled it using two different, historic copper pot stills, amplifying the whisky's natural flavours and aromatic oils. Each batch boasts a robust palate of biscuity malt, vanillin oak, and toasty undertones.

This whisky is matured in ex-Bourbon barrels and richly seasoned Tawny barrels.

Join us as whisky aficionado David Olney helps us explore this bold, new addition to the 23rd Street lineup.

00:16:26 The Redgum-flavoured Political Pulse Check With Robert Godden

Having seen footage of Premier Peter Malinauskus sleeping rough on a winter's night, it gave us pause for thought. What are his chances of staying ensconced in the warm and comforting rooms and hallways of Parliament House after the next election vs his risk of being tossed into the street? We figured it was time to check in with our in-house political pollster, Robert Godden, for his unique and eclectic range of political tea leaf reading.

Robert, is it possible to start with your reading of the mood of the electorate, or, should I say, state?

Here are some issues to give our discussion some structure, given some context by Redgum:

1. I'd like to start with some Redgum lyrics (Enrich the oxide out of Port Pirie, And the toxic gases they won't even see, But where ya gonna go, When the North wind blows, Where ya gonna run to now?). Of course, this relates to the ongoing debate that never seems to reach its half life; nuclear power. Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton's calls for nuclear energy is raising heat levels within South Australian Liberal ranks.
2. Some more Redgum lyrics (Electioneering's such a bore, Three months of bending ears, Thank Christ I only see you yobbos, Once every three years). Of course, that's four years in SA but when we think elections we have to think about all the political donations helping to prop up the different teams. What do you think of the South Australian government's proposal to ban political donations?
3. More Redgum lyrics (Life wasn't meant to be impossible, Spare us the indignity, Two cheers for progress, reason denied, Whitewash and platitudes are all I can find). Does this relate to concerns about the strain on South Australia's hospital system, with the government releasing a new ad campaign to reduce pressure on emergency departments.
4. More Redgum lyrics (We went looking for Australia In between the TV lines, 'Cause the ABC just couldn't make it real, Colour documentary From a beanbag on the floor Never shows as much as it conceals), this brings us to Frome and what he was really like and whether we should cancel him as the namesake of one of our electorates, as requested by Upper House MP Reggie Martin.
5. More Redgum lyrics (Yes we know it was the festival of art and all that stuff, And the culture vultures still sat on the fence, Before you put your bum on those plush red seats take, a look in your backyard, Don't we need some changes in this town?) One of the big changes is more funding for the arts, with the government facing criticism that it prioritises sports over the arts. Discuss.

01:06:05 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature a song by Alison Newman, Things Are About To Get Dark.

Experience a deeply personal musical journey with Alison Newman in our Musical Pilgrimage. Her EP "WOLF" confronts the challenging themes of postnatal depression, likened to a haunting dance with the Wolf of PND. Each track narrates a phase of her struggle and recovery, encapsulating the dark yet ultimately hopeful journey through a mix of melodramatic sounds and profound lyrics. This segment is not just a song feature; it's a testament to the resilience found in seeking help and the power of discussing mental health openly.

The track we're hearing retells Alison's experience from the moment she experienced her first PND symptoms, it is a forboding moment of realisation, it is going to happen all over again.

This track won the Australian Songwriters Association 2021 Exceptional Merit Award in the Rock/Indie Category

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How do you find someone to talk about Sherlock Holmes and his Adelaide connections? You talk to ABC Adelaide – it’s elementary, Dear Watson, and it’s how I connected with today’s guest, Peter Dunn.

The SA Drink Of The Week this week is an award winning Galway Pipe Tawny Port.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature the new album by Professor Flint.

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Running Sheet: Sherlock Holmes

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:02:25 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week this week is the Galway Pipe Bourbon Barrel Tawny 10 YO, voted best wine from Australia at the Frankfurt International Trophy 2024, and the Galway Pipe Grand Tawny 12 YO, which won the Grand Gold Award.

These two significant awards at the prestigious Frankfurt International Trophy 2024, were against competition from more than 2,550 wines from nearly 30 countries.

This is fitting because Sherlock Holmes always smoked a pipe and kept his tobacco in an old slipper. Not sure if he drank Port though?

Galway Pipe is named after Sir Henry Lionel Galway, a “notable” governor of South Australia who was renowned for his discerning taste in fine fortified wines. That’s not all he was known for. Sir Henry was appointed Governor of South Australia in 1914. He resented the limitations placed upon a constitutional governor, and his governorship was defined by controversy. He managed to anger a wide spectrum of the population.

The general public disliked his support of compulsory military training; puritans were angered by his support for gambling and his opposition to prohibition; progressives were infuriated by his opposition to women’s enfranchisement; and the political establishment were aghast at his opposition to the White Australia Policy (on the grounds that the Northern Territory needed Asian workers). For this last opinion, he was forced to issue a full retraction and apology. A speech in 1915 in which Galway suggested that trade unionists should be conscripted and sent to the front was widely criticised and gave local cartoonists a field day. It was eventually Galway’s support for conscription that saved his governorship; the legislature decided that his efforts to increase voluntary recruitment for the First World War, as well as his support for conscription referendums, warranted keeping him in the role. A motion in the legislature by the Labor opposition in 1917 calling for the abolition of his office failed.

After the war, Premier Archibald Peake was considering a proposal to build a national war memorial on the site of Government House, Adelaide, with a new vice-regal residence to be purchased in the suburbs. Galway managed to dissuade Peake from this scheme, and the war memorial was built in a corner of the grounds of Government House. Galway’s appointment was not renewed when it expired in 1920; although he was liked by the Adelaide establishment, he had been a spectacularly controversial governor, and the Colonial Office did not give him another post. He returned to England later in 1920.

Back to the wine, Galway Pipe in Langhorne Creek is led by Head Winemaker Chris Dix and Senior Winemaker Chad Smith, and is available through BWS, Dan Murphy’s, Liquorland, First Choice and more.

Galway Pipe Bourbon Barrel Tawny 10 YO
Complex flavours on the palate such as caramel, vanilla, fruitcake, and an abundance of sweet spice notes. The small format barrel has a profound influence, amplifying the tawny’s character with exotic bourbon notes: delicate interplay of charred wood, rye, and toasted malt characters emerge, entwining harmoniously with the tawny’s essence to create a perfect union.

Galway Pipe Grand Tawny 12 YO
Aged in oak barrels for an average of 12 years, this exquisite, rich blend of character-filled grape varieties. A complex flavour profile of raisins, dried pears, grilled nuts and spicy oak. The palate is balanced with levels of sweetness and acidity, perfectly crafted and aged, ready to drink.

00:17:42 Sherlock Holmes Society with Peter Dunn

Earlier this year, to cleanse my pallate after reading a series of business books, I opted to listen to Stephen Fry’s reading of the complete collection of Sherlock Holmes stories. I was smitten. Then I fell off my chair when Adelaide was mentioned in the story, The Adventure of the Abbey Grange, only to fall off again when we got another mention in The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax. My curiosity compelled me to ascertain whether or not the ships, Rock of Gibraltar and Bass Rock, actually existed and carried passengers from Adelaide to Southampton. I found evidence for the latter, and also discovered that Adelaide has a group called Unscrupulous Rascalls, but I have failed to be able to make contact with them. So, after reaching out to Keith Conlon, who put me in touch with ABC Adelaide Producer John Thompson-Mills, I was invited onto the Drive program with Jo Laverty, and through that discussion, I met Peter Dunn, who was a member of the original Sherlock Holmes Society Of Australia. He joins me now in what I hope will be a singular episode of The Adelaide Show.

Original members of the Sherlock Holmes Society Of Australia, from left, Anne Dunn, Peter Dunn, and founder, Alan Olding, at the launch of the movie, “Young Sherlock Holmes”

Before we proceed, I must say that I love Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s use of English, in particular, his use of the adjective, singular. I find myself using it. Are there any other words or phrases that rubbed off on you, other than, elementary (which rarely comes up)?

How did the Sherlock Holmes Society of Australia come to be, and what drove its members’ passion for Holmes?

Let’s have a listen to how The Case Of The Elusive Sherlock Holmes Society came to be solved, thanks to the Jo Laverty interview on ABC Adelaide. This is my second interview with Jo on the day.

Tell us more about the society and some of those connections to stories and to the author.

In my first chat with Jo Laverty, I brought up the only blemish in Stephen Fry’s narration, when he we trying to do the accent of Lady Brackenstall from Adelaide, whose maiden name was Mary Fraser. Here’s a snippet from the story, The Adventure Of The Abbey Grange.

What do you think of that accent?

We should go back to the beginning and “A Study in Scarlet” because this is how we meet Holmes and Watson and set the stage for all that followed. Charting the story through the lens of Holmes seems to me to have been a master stroke. What do you like about it? How does it compare to the odd story written from Holmes’ perspective?

“The Final Problem” was the story when we meet Moriarty and both he and Holmes supposedly die. What sort of discussion arose around this story in the society?

Let’s turn to “The Hound of the Baskervilles”— because this has remained the most popular Holmes story and is where we experience the clash of spiritualism with Holmesian logic. Can you imagine Doyle’s inner world as he wrote this?

This brings us to October in 1920, when Sir Arthur Conan Doyle visited Adelaide to give a lecture on spiritualism. Samela Harris pointed out a scathing review. I will read some of it, and then let’s discuss the enigma that the famous author was:

CONAN DOYLE’S VISIT UNINSPIRING LECTURES. AN INTOLERANT “EVANGEL” 

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle has come to Adelaide and gone, but he probably made few converts to the “faith.” The curious thing was that the noted spiritualist did not profess to be able to make them. All he hoped to do was to “sow the seed,” so that those people who thought well enough of it could continue their enquiries into the new revelation, which, really isn’t new at all.

This seems a sweeping confession of one’s impotence to convince the public mind of the truths of the cult when it comes from so high an apostle of the movement — “the flaming evangelist of spiritualism,” as he was billed; a man who claims to have spent 34 years of his important life reading about it, delving into it, and experimenting with it. It is a poor apostle who has such small faith in his ability to garner fresh recruits!

As a lecturer Sir Conan lacks the power to grip or arrest an audience. In a physical and mental sense there is plenty of him, but his rugged personality is too material, his emotions too inflexible, and his arguments too unconvincing to impress or influence a mass of earnest, intelligent  isteners.

WAR ON DOUBTERS.

But those are not his only handicaps. He exhibits a vexed and an intolerant attitude towards those who dare to differ from him. Instead of extending a charitable and winning indulgence to his critics or honest doubters he hurls cutting jibes at a “sneering and jeering world,” scoffs at the “amazing ignorance and enormous impertinence of little people,” contemptuously brashes aside “so-called leaders of science and religion,” and rails at “the great stupidity and levity of the press.’

His style is unreasonably didactic and his methods jarring. It is “the Gospel according to Sir Conan” — and woe unto the unbeliever!

While no one will question the sincerity or honesty of the celebrated visitor, there were yet elements surrounding the series of his Adelaide lectures which smacked of the “showman.” Often when unfolding an interesting phase or enunciating a certain principle the speaker would abruptly break off with the intimation that he would deal with that in a later discourse — “to be continued in our next,” as the serial says — and what was originally intended to be two addresses developed into four “spellbound” lectures, the last, as the public notice read, “at popular prices  notwithstanding the enormous success of Sir Arthur’s visit.”

DISAPPOINTED LISTENERS.

So far as it was possible to glean opinions of people who attended the lectures it seemed that many were disappointed that there was no public seance given which might help to clear away suspicion or stimulate thought on the revelation. At such a time in the history of the world when  people are borne on the surging bosom of a restless sea of doubt and distrust, when there is an expectant longing for something that is new and entrancing, the way of the man with a fresh and fascinating gospel is open if his doctrine is but convincing. But there was little tangible in what
Sir Conan had to say or present. Even for the genuineness of some of his spirit pictures he would not vouch, and he shattered the popular belief that the camera would never lie. Then he admitted the unreliability of some of the mediums and warned his hearers to beware of fraud.

“We have discovered,” said Sir Conan, “that certain people have the power to throw out a substance generally known as psycho-plasm, which is at the basis of all this material phenomena. It is thrown out by certain people — more by some than others— and it is this psychoplasm which really makes the medium.”

What do you think about some of the later Holmes stories. To me, there was a decline in the quality of the last ones in His Last Bow and The Case Book Of Sherlock Holmes.

Peter what are your favourite moments and stories from the Holmes canon?

Let’s draw to a close with an obscure story How Watson Learned the Trick, which is not included in the main collections and was written for a specific occasion. This short piece was for a booklet compiled for Queen Mary’s Dolls’ House. He also wrote The Field Bazaar for a university fundraiser. [I will read How Watson Learned The Trick]. This is like Holmes in fast forward. Your thoughts?

What do you think Holmes and Doyle have brought to cultural and intellectual life around the world?

How Watson Learned The Trick, from Arthur-Conan-Doyle.com

Watson had been watching his companion intently ever since he had sat down to the breakfast table. Holmes happened to look up and catch his eye. “Well, Watson, what are you thinking about?” he asked.

“About you.”

“Me?”

“Yes, Holmes. I was thinking how superficial are these tricks of yours, and how wonderful it is that the public should continue to show interest in them.”

“I quite agree,” said Holmes. “In fact, I have a recollection that I have myself made a similar remark.”

“Your methods,” said Watson severely, “are really easily acquired.”

“No doubt,” Holmes answered with a smile. “Perhaps you will yourself give an example of this method of reasoning.”

“With pleasure,” said Watson. “I am able to say that you were greatly preoccupied when you got up this morning.”

“Excellent!” said Holmes. “How could you possibly know that?”

“Because you are usually a very tidy man and yet you have forgotten to shave.”

“Dear me! How very clever!” said Holmes. “I had no idea, Watson, that you were so apt a pupil. Has your eagle eye detected anything more?”

“Yes, Holmes. You have a client named Barlow, and you have not been successful with his case.”

“Dear me, how could you know that?”

“I saw the name outside his envelope. When you opened it you gave a groan and thrust it into your pocket with a frown on your face.”

“Admirable! You are indeed observant. Any other points?”

“I fear, Holmes, that you have taken to financial speculation.”

“How could you tell that, Watson?”

“You opened the paper, turned to the financial page, and gave a loud exclamation of interest.”

“Well, that is very clever of you, Watson. Any more?”

“Yes, Holmes, you have put on your black coat, instead of your dressing gown, which proves that your are expecting some important visitor at once.”

“Anything more?”

“I have no doubt that I could find other points, Holmes, but I only give you these few, in order to show you that there are other people in the world who can be as clever as you.”

“And some not so clever,” said Holmes. “I admit that they are few, but I am afraid, my dear Watson, that I must count you among them.”

“What do you mean, Holmes?”

“Well, my dear fellow, I fear your deductions have not been so happy as I should have wished.”

“You mean that I was mistaken.”

“Just a little that way, I fear. Let us take the points in their order: I did not shave because I have sent my razor to be sharpened. I put on my coat because I have, worse luck, an early meeting with my dentist. His name is Barlow, and the letter was to confirm the appointment. The cricket page is beside the financial one, and I turned to it to find if Surrey was holding its own against Kent. But go on, Watson, go on! It ‘s a very superficial trick, and no doubt you will soon acquire it.”

01:17:59 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by  Professor Flint, Creatures Of The Slime.

This is the third album by the Prof, and a total of five albums from the pen of Michael Mills all from this calendar year of 2024 [in the episode, Steve suggests that is the tally of all time – nup, he’s prolific (among other things)]  All the links are here.

The new album, “Creatures of the Slime” , has just dropped and explores the remarkable fossil heritage of the Flinders Ranges. It comprises 16 newly recorded songs, including a song about Spriginna, the South Australian fossil emblem.

In our discussion with Peter, he points out that the nearby Hallett Cove Conservation Park now has a model Diprotodon, which Peter went to see, bumping into the man who found the fossilled remains of the massive marsupial from our past.

Diprotodon at Hallett Cove, photo taken by Peter Dunn

It is a great example of what happens when creatives work with researchers at places such as the South Australian Museum, to create content for the community. And while mostly for young humans, aged 12 and under, and their families, the album includes the title track, remixed by a US DJ, having played the song on a regular basis at a nightclub in Los Angeles!

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Come on a journey into the world of sustainable tourism with Craig Haslam, a pioneer in enhancing South Australia's environmental and tourist landscapes. Discover how Craig's company, Untamed Escapes, is setting new standards in eco-tourism and hear about his advocacy for the region, along with his belief in how the foundation of all good tourism is bases in human-to-human interaction. A must-listen for all professionals in tourism and sustainability!

The SA Drink Of The Week this week is a special Shiraz from Eight At The Gate Wines.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature a new song from Audio Reign that is perfect "driving" music if you like your tunes full throttle!

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Running Sheet: Leadership Drought: A Call to Wine Australia Amid Small And Family Winery Despair

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:03:13 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week this week is a 2019 Family Reserve Shiraz from Eight At The Gate Wines in Wrattonbully, South Australia.

The sisters behind the winery, Jane and Claire, were previously on The Adelaide Show, recording a chat in their vineyards.

00:13:19 Craig Haslam And Tourism In South Australia

Our special guest in this episode is a man who is well respected in tourism circles in South Australia, Australia, and on the world stage. He is the founder of Untamed Escapes, which has shown the wild side of South Australia to many visitors from around the world - and even shown many locals what's been right under our noses the whole time. Aside from being involved in Eyre Peninsula tourism since the naughties, he is currently Chair of the South Australian Leadership Group of the Australian Tourism Export Council. I welcome, Craig "Hassie" Haslam.

Tourism is about people; people connecting with people. Do you agree?

I remember meeting you through some online marketing workshops and social media marketing workshops that I ran from 2005, and I was in awe of the imagery you had, using the old cameras back then. You were pushing the envelope regarding the way you were searching for ways to use modern technology to capture the spirit of your passengers' experiences in the bush. You must be answering a deep call of the wild. Any idea how that began?

What are some of the hairiest moments you've had out there?

What holds some of us city slickers back? How can we learn to embrace the wild?

What was it like operating tours across the Nullarbor Plain in the early days? What unique challenges did you face?

How have consumer expectations and behaviours changed since you first started in the tourism sector?

How did the COVID-19 pandemic impact your business, and what adjustments did you find most effective?

As someone passionate about environmental sustainability, what practices have you implemented in your tours to minimise the ecological footprint?

Can you share insights into your involvement with the Australian Tourism Export Council and its significance to your business?

How do you see the future of tourism in South Australia, particularly in light of climate change and environmental concerns?

You've been a strong advocate for the Eyre Peninsula. What makes this region special for tourists?

What new trends or innovations in tourism are you most excited about right now?

What advice would you give to new entrepreneurs entering the tourism industry today?

Looking back, what would you say has been your greatest achievement in your career?

Finally, what legacy do you hope to leave behind in the tourism industry and for the region you're so passionate about?

01:31:40 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by Audio Reign from their upcoming album being released on May 11, 2024. This track is called, Crown.

We think this is pretty decent driving music. Try it on your next Nullarbor trip!

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Whether you drink a little bit of South Australian wine, or a lot, your decisions about what you buy and where you buy it from, make a big difference. We sit with three passionate people from the wine industry, today, and they have some tales of woe to share, some stories about labour of love they all carry out, and some messages to those of us who’d like to see a thriving sector of small, family-run wineries who bring texture and body to the glass and to many circles of the economy throughout our state.

There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week. Well, actually, there are four, but they are woven through the episode.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature a new song from Suedan, that is slightly related to our theme: Whiskey Did It.

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Running Sheet: Leadership Drought: A Call to Wine Australia Amid Small And Family Winery Despair00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

Not one but four SA Drinks Of The Week this week. They are interwoven throughout the episode. If you would like to hear the tasting notes, you’ll find them here:

00:09:08 – Paulmara Estates 2021 “The Marriage” Cabernet Shiraz

00:47:27 – Ben Murray Wines 2021 Barossa Valley Shiraz

01:18:15 – Flinders Run 2021 Baroota Creek Cabernet Sauvignon

01:49:05 – Paulmara Estates 2021 ARETÎ

00:03:19 Paul Georgiadis, Emanuel Skorpos, Dan Eggleton

It’s a tough gig, being at the helm of a family-owned winery in Australia in 2024. China’s tariffs on Australian wine bit hard, causing a glut in supply, while the multinationals like Coles and Woolworths used their clout to create “fake” boutique wines that “magically” got shelf space and retailer support from, well, Coles and Woolworths. Meanwhile, our 2500 wineries and grape growers have been contributing to the coffers of Wine Australia in the hope that its role of supporting and regulating the Australian grape and wine industry would mean that someone was looking out for them and not ignoring the big bad wolves who are plundering the sector every day. But, if you’re surviving in this industry, maybe that’s enough because as one of the guests who couldn’t make it today was quoted as saying on the ABC recently, you don’t get into the wine industry to make money, you do it because you love it!

Who are our guests? We have Paul Georgiadis who, among other things, is the founder and owner of Paulmara Estates, along with his wife, Mara. We’re recording at Paulmara in Marananga today. We also have the man who suggested we hold this discussion, Emanuel Skorpos, the Principal Vintner at Flinders Run in the Southern Flinders, and Dan Eggleton, the cofounder and winemaker at Ben Murray Wines and Principal and Founder of Vinous Consulting.

I like naming elephants in rooms, so my first reflection is that we’re all blokes, sitting around this table. We haven’t excluded women, it’s more that Emanuel is directly connected to you all and this gathering developed organically from there. Had we more microphones, I would have arranged for Jane Richards to join us from Eight At The Gate Wines in Wrattonbully – she is an absolute dynamo – and I’m sure you all work with women in different roles. Can we acknowledge some before we move on?

The key theme of our discussion is that “mum and dad” wineries make up the bulk of those 2500 wineries in Australia, and it always hurts a bit when we see our Premier hobnobbing at a new Wolf Blass cellar door to celebrate government support for a business you’d think was hardly in need of extra help. Mind you, I did mention this to a winemaker friend of mine, who is also part of a family-run winery, and he confessed that he “gets it” because the levies that fund Wine Australia are based on volume and the big end of town contributes more than we do. Can we start here? What are the big pain points for family wineries right now, and where does the support of Wine Australia hit and miss, in your opinions?

Summarising the role of Wine Australia, goes like this. It’s role is to support and regulate the Australian grape and wine industry with its primary functions being Research and Development (R&D) (and sharing and commercialising results of that research), Marketing and Promotion to boost consumption of grape products here and overseas, Regulation and Compliance, especially when exporting, and User Pays activities. But I note this: Wine Australia operates under a Statutory Funding Agreement with the Australian Government, which prohibits it from engaging in political activities or acting as an industry representative. Its governance and operations aim to achieve the best possible return on investment for the Australian grape and wine sector. Does this mean it’s not the body that has any role to play in protecting us from the savagery of the duopolies, or in lobbying for government support to be directed to particular sectors, like “mum and dad” wineries?

While on the government front, state and federal governments are crowing about China’s ending of the industry-strangling tariffs it had placed on Australian wine, but I haven’t seen Emanuel popping the sparkling wine cork. Does this mean there is devil in the detail?

I am curbing alcohol consumption and opting for quality over quanitity. I am not alone. What do you make of this trend?

What’s your message for government? Is it harder for them to care, given how many of you there are vs there being just a handful of big, headline-grabbing operators?

What’s your message for consumers? Should they change buying habits? Do little changes make a difference?

01:57:17 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by Suedan, from the latest album, Suedan Mountain Blues, titled, Whiskey Did It.

While our panel is still here, what impact is the explosion of distilleries having on the wine sector?

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In this important episode, we delve into the complexities of living with disabilities in Adelaide, set against the backdrop of the city's ongoing efforts towards inclusivity. Our guests, including David Olney, Jorja Denton, and insights from Clair Crowley of the Strong & Capable Co-operative, share their lived experiences navigating well-intended urban interventions that sometimes present mixed outcomes for individuals with different disabilities. As Adelaide seeks public feedback on its new Disability Access and Inclusion Plan, this conversation aims to contribute unique perspectives to the dialogue, exploring the interplay of technology, community support, and the broader societal understanding of disability.

There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature the the song "Fabulous" by Rachael Leahcar, written and produced exclusively for the No Strings Attached Theatre Of Disability.

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Running Sheet: Navigating Adelaide with Disabilities Amid Well-Intentioned Interventions

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

No SA Drink Of The Week this week.

00:02:32 Jorja Denton, David Olney, Clair Crowley

The City of Adelaide publicly states that it's committed to making the city a welcoming and inclusive place for all people to enjoy by working toward demonstrating best practice in access and inclusion planning. And yet, even in my small circle of friends living with disability, I know about certain interventions that are great for people with certain forms of disability while making matters worse for others. With the City seeking public feedback on its new Disability Access and Inclusion Plan by 5pm, April 2, 2024, I thought we'd get a few people around a microphone to share their lived experiences and maybe this episode might be an unusual contribution to that process? My guests today are my friend, fellow podcaster, and colleague at Talked About Marketing, David Olney, another friend made through the early years of The Adelaide Show Podcast, Jorja Denton, and General Manager of the Strong & Capable Co-operative & a social innovator, Clair Crowley.

I should note that Clair could not be here with us in person, today, but she has contributed some thoughts. I should also note that one of the most important aspects of her organisation, is its Peer Mentoring Program, which invites people with particular expertise and passion to mentor someone living with a disability to learn more about and engage in that field of interest. But the key thing is that this program includes mentoring BY people living with disability, not just FOR them. This is an important step in maturity for our society, and if you'd like to learn more, there's a Peer Mentoring Launch Party on Thursday, April 4, from 4.30-8pm, at Hard Days Night ADL. Launch Party invitiation. You can find info about the Co-Op and its programs over at www.strongandcapable.com.au.

David and Jorja, perhaps I should get a reflection from you both by the universal, two-way flow model that Clair is developing through that program?

Jorja, can you give us a snapshot of your lived experience with a disability and perhaps a "day in the life" view of how you get on in the world?

David, could you do the same - giving us a snapshot of your lived experience and what a "day in the life" looks like for you?

Looking at The City of Adelaide's Draft Disability Access and Inclusion Plan, there seem to be five main initiatives that are worth discussing and that will give us some more inroads into your lives. They are:

• Infrastructure Improvements: The plan includes specific targets for enhancing the accessibility of the city's infrastructure, such as footpath ramps, audio-tactile push buttons at crossings, and accessible bus stops.
• Liveable Neighbourhoods: Efforts to create more inclusive communities include the development of sensory-friendly spaces, upgraded Changing Places facilities, and the implementation of accessible community grants programs. Now, on that, I had no idea what Changing Places were and I found this definition on the Council's website: Changing Places facilities are best-practice bathrooms for people living with disability and their support person. They offer more space, a hoist and other customised features, providing dignified and purpose-built toileting and showering facilities for people with disability when you are out and about.
• Events and Festivals: The plan aims to make Adelaide's vibrant events scene more accessible through an accessible events project, incorporating accessibility planning checklists for event organisers and partnerships to foster access and inclusion.
• Business Engagement: A Business Access and Inclusion Program is proposed to improve the accessibility of city businesses, including efforts to promote inclusive businesses and support upgrades through development of skills and knowledge in the sector.
• Inclusive Customer and Employee Experiences: This involves training for City of Adelaide employees in inclusive practices, improvement in the accessibility of Council meetings, and a commitment to co-design and consultation activities involving people with disabilities.

I'd like to wander back through these, and we might start with the last two or three, about training and promoting Council, Business, and Event management and employees to foster better access and inclusion. And there's one hurdle here that I think needs naming, and that is TIME. I feel that I'm under pressure to work much faster than ever before and if there's one thing I've noticed when organisations like No Strings work with people with disabilities, especially in physical gatherings, we all have the calm the heck down and slow down. And I mean, really slow down. Is this a tangible threat to the success of these initiatives or a mirage created by our own self-centredness?

CLAIR: The common theme for me through starting my own business where I supported tourism operators to become more inclusive and where I am now with the co-operative, is that lived experience is where the value is, and even though everyone experiences their disability in their own unique way, the insights and knowledge that people with lived experience with disability can share with others is absolutely priceless and trusted. In tourism in particular we have seen inclusion come in leaps and bounds with the services they provide and their willingness to find ways to welcome more people through their doors, this refers to adapting the physical environment AND the customer experience. Many small - med owner operated businesses have an advantage in this space because they are in the frontline interacting with customers and they know the operational aspect of their business inside out, this means that when they listen to their customers to be more inclusive and they (usually) have the ability to adapt quickly and with a warm welcome.

One thing I think would be an amazing asset would be the accessibility planning checklists for event organisers. Anything to make it easier and not half-hearted, is a good thing. I remember talking about having Jorja over to watch a movie at our place but none of our doors are compliant. Surely that doesn't happen with buildings today but instead of throwing shade, actually shining a light seems like a good move.

The liveable neighbourhoods section is where I turn to both of you because you both live within the City Of Adelaide. How liveable is it or is it not?

Let's turn to infrastructure, such as footpath ramps, audio-tactile push buttons at crossings, and accessible bus stops. Can you please take me on a tour of the good, the bad, and the ugly?

How has technology enhanced your autonomy in navigating the city, and can you give examples where it fills gaps left by urban infrastructure?

Technology is one thing, but human touch and support is another. I would love you both to reflect on whether or not it is important that friends, families, and colleagues support you by going the extra mile to make inclusion possible, but I want to preface this discussion by another comment from Clair.

CLAIR: For my family, sport provided a pathway into a new life, after my husband's accident, he was invited to play wheelchair basketball and this was absolutely instrumental in finding his way forward. Sport continues to play an incredibly important role for us, it means we are part of a community where we can connect with like minded people, contribute and participate, it keeps us fit and healthy and always striving forward. It also opened up doors we didn't even know existed, for example we got to live in Northern Italy for a Wheelchair Basketball season and la dolce vita! In Italy it was really evident that good customer service is what makes the biggest difference to how we feel we 'fit in'. The built environment had its challenges, but we were always met with an Italian that was ready to help as needed.

Clair mentioned sport, how important is the visibility of paralympic athletes in changing perceptions about disability, and what more can be done to support and promote disability sports?

And turning to the arts and popular culture, can you identify TV shows or movies that either positively represent disability or perpetuate stereotypes? How do these representations influence public perceptions?

What are some closing thoughts for those of us who are "not considered to be living with disabilities", from the perspective of inclusion, and just being a decent human?

00:59:57 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by Rachael Leahcar, written and produced exclusively for No Strings Attached Theatre Of Disability.

Rachael says it reflects the “esprit de corps” she experienced being in amongst the whole No Strings team for her final placement for her uni studies (Bachelor of Disability and Developmental Education). And I quote:

“I looked up what esprit de corps means and I completely agree with this and all the other sentiments. This is a huge team effort and I'm in total awe of how everyone worked together so seamlessly, navigating obstacles and making snap decisions sometimes. Everyone has so much passion for the arts and I want to thank you all, as a performer with a disability myself, for giving the opportunity for people to be portrayed as ACTORS instead of characters with disability (nothing wrong with that as well, just a rare opportunity). The actors have often commented how great it is to be accepted and have their strengths recognised.”

The song has been gifted to No Strings and if you'd like to support the company by buying a copy, please contact them at nostringsattached.org.au.

As an aside, Rachael actually wrote and recorded the song in the week before the No Strings end of year showcase, AMPLIFY, which was also the week just before her wedding!

I also note that while she wrote this specifically for the show, everyone embraced it as their own personal theme song.

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