The Adoption Files

The Adoption Files

By Ande StanleyScienceSocial Sciences
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The Adoption Files episodes

  • Adoptee Access and the state of Vermont
    A thank you to those who worked so hard on behalf of Vermont adoptees, and a plea to see other states follow their lead. Vermont is only the eleventh state to allow adoptees access to their original documents.
    9 min
  • Advertising for Babies
    The host delivers a short rant on the awfulness of advertising for babies. Contact your legislators if you live in a state where independent advertising for children is allowed. Use the convenient map provided by (the enemy), at Our Chosen Baby. Just google States where advertising for babies is allowed.
    5 min
  • In the Market
    This episode is also available as a blog post: https://theadoptionfilescom.wordpress.com/2021/11/17/in-the-market/. A brief talk about white, grey and black market adoptions, the situation with Ukraine, and a disturbing list of the twenty easiest places to adopt. Disclaimer: the host is jot a lawyer. The hosts opinions are just opinions, even if she did look this shit up and finds it highly offensive. People! People are being taken from their families by opportunistic child “ resourcers” and sold to, primarily, white people in other countries. Selling people! That’s why it’s called a Market.
    24 min
  • Lynn Grubb, the Adopted Genealogist, interviews the host of The Adoption Files
    Join the host, Ande Stanley, as they are interviewed by Lynn Grubb. We talk a bit about my experience as a UK adoptee, and a lot about the complexities of pursuing our identities. 
    Lynn Grubb is the editor of the Adoptee Anthology, The Adoptee Survival Guide. She is the author of the memoir Hidden Identity. She is The Adopted Genealogist on Facebook. Her memoir can be found in podcast form at: theadoptedgenealogist.podbean.com
    Mentioned in the show:
    UK adoption law: In England, adoptees 18 or over can apply for and receive their adoption files and a copy of their original birth certificate. Adoptees born before 12 Nov 1975 must attend a counseling session to prove they are of sound mind in order to receive their documents. Adoption records: Accessing your birth records - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
    Adoption Council: The United Kingdom has a system where an adoptee can visit the Adoption Council where their adoptions were registered, and apply to receive their files.
    General Registry Office (GRO): The United Kingdom maintains vital records through this office. General Register Office (GRO) - Official information on births, marriages, civil partnerships and deaths
    Search Angel: a Search Angel is a person who, free of charge, assists adoptees with finding their families. The Search Squad and The Search Co-op on Facebook are two places free assistance can be found. 
    Genealogist: a person who has learned how to use the various genealogical resources to trace family histories. Genetic genealogists have learned how to use a persons DNA test results to trace family.  
    Commercial DNA testing companies: Ancestry.com, 23andme.com, MyHeritage.com, Familytreedna.com, gedmatch.com
    AdopteeRightsLaw.com: a site run by attorney Greg Luce, that provides information about each of the US states adoptee access laws. He also provides information about ongoing legislative efforts. 
    Adoptees United: Adoptees United | Identity, Citizenship, Equality : A non-profit dedicated to advocating for adoptee rights. Great resource for information on a variety of adoptee rights issues.
    Adoptee Rights Coalition: Home | ARC (adopteerightscoalition.com)  a non-profit providing resources and education on issues relating to adoptee rights
    Adoptees Connect:  Where Adoptee Voices Meet – An Adoptee Centric Connect Group (adopteesconnect.com) an adoptee centric group committed to providing space for adoptees while building connections between them
    Adoption Reunion Registries: there are different types. Some are run by private or non-profit organizations. Others are mandated by states in order to apply to access documents. The hope is to register your information and discover that a family member has also registered in hope of finding you. There are occasions when this happens, but, overall, when dealing with a non-state mandated registry, you are better off guarding your private information and doing DNA instead.
    Disclaimer: The host is not a lawyer. The opinions expressed by the host and their guests are just that, opinions.  the host can be contacted at: https://www.facebook.com/adoptionfiles; theadoptionfilescom.Wordpress.com; or at [email protected]
    1 hr 34 min
  • Interview with Victoria Bond

    Victoria Bond was born and adopted in the state of Kentucky. Please join us as we talk about the difficulties of applying for documents in a closed state, and how Victorias experience motivated her to become a Search Angel for other adoptees. Victoria is a small business owner as well. She can be found at Made by Victoria: https://www.facebook.com/madebyvictoriabond

    Mentioned in the show:

    Kentucky adoption law: Adoptee search brochure.p65 (ky.gov)      Adult Adoptees in Kentucky • Original Birth Certificates (adopteerightslaw.com)

    The Search Co-op: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thesearchcooperative

    Search Angel: a person who assists an adoptee with their search for their family of origin, free of charge

    U.K. (United Kingdom: for me, specifically England): Adoption records: Accessing your birth records - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

    Commercial DNA testing companies: these are companies that you can purchase a DNA test, have it analyzed, and receive varying degrees of information. The largest company is Ancestry.com. Others include 23andme, My Heritage, Gedmatch, Family Tree DNA. 

    Adoptees United:  Adoptees United | Identity, Citizenship, Equality

    Adoptees Connect:  Where Adoptee Voices Meet – An Adoptee Centric Connect Group (adopteesconnect.com)

    Adoptee Therapy: growbeyondwords.com

    Disclaimer: The host is not a lawyer. The opinions expressed by the host and their guests are just that, opinions. 

     Yes, this episode is longer than usual. Yes, I tried to make it into two episodes. Yes, I realized I had no idea how, and am getting help(for so many things!). Yes, It is totally worth listening all the way to the end. 


    1 hr 43 min
  • Arguing with Experts
    The host does a bit of ranting about the many reasons given for denying adoptees access to our documents, including the rationale that adoption is not a trauma, and biology can be transgressed.
    14 min
  • Interview with Mary Constance

    Mary Constance is an adoptee from Ohio. Mary is preparing to walk across America to bring attention to the inequity faced by adoptees in seeking access to our original birth certificates. 

    Mentioned in the show:

    Ohio adoptee access to records: https://odh.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odh/know-our-programs/vital-statistics/Adoption-File-Information/Adoption-File-Information

    The Chosen Baby: a pro-adoption childrens books by Valentina P Wasson, designed to help adoptive parents explain adoption to adopted children. 

    ACOA: Adult Children of Alcoholics. adultchildren.org  A support group for adult children of alcoholics

    Generational Trauma: a fairly new field that explores trauma passed from one generation to another. Also known as intergenerational trauma and transgenerational trauma

    Life Gap: a term created by an adoptee to refer to the time between birth and adoption, where few if any records are available to adoptees. Many of us deeply feel the absence of this information, of a time when we were cared for in an institutional or foster care situation. 

    ACE: Adverse Childhood Experience. While Adverse Childhood Experiences have long been acknowledged as a source of lasting trauma, few measures include being given up for adoption as a trauma. The closest many assessments come is to have losing a family member on the list of recognized trauma. 

    PTSD: Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, or Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, is characterized by sleep disturbance, intrusive thoughts, anxiety and depression. A persons nervous system is often stuck in high gear, causing a person to be hyper alert at all times. Or, they may find themselves in flight, freeze or fawn. Therapy can be very helpful. Many people find EMDR, Cognitive Processing Therapy, and Prolonged Exposure Therapy helpful. 

    Agoraphobia: an anxiety disorder that causes a person to be fearful of places where they feel they can't escape. This may cause people to stay only in places where they feel secure, like home. Therapy can be very helpful. 

    Mental Health Resources: If you have health insurance, you can contact your provider to find information about the services available to you. If you do not have insurance, you can contact www.nami.org for information about resources, or contact your local department of health. If you are a student, your school may offer services. Mental health services can be difficult to locate, though there are now online therapists who can be helpful. Always check if a provider is licensed, and ask if they will provide services on a sliding scale. Some Womens health clinics offer sliding scale mental health services to women and children. 

    Paul Sunderland: an internationally known expert on addiction. He has spoken on adoption and addiction. Here is a popular youtube video: https://youtu.be/3e0-SsmOUJI

    Red Couch Rebuttal: a roundtable produced in response to a fundraising film created by The Cradle Evanston, an adoption agency in Illinois. https://youtu.be/-VgK_3n798I

    The Ghost Kingdom: first coined by Betty Jean Lifton, the Ghost Kingdom is the imaginary family that adoptees create in place of the families we have been denied contact with


    Disclaimers: The host is not a lawyer. The laws are discussed to the best of our ability.  

    The opinions expressed by the host and their guests are just that, opinions. 

    1 hr 27 min
  • Interview with Margaret Theriault

    Margaret is an adoptee from Ontario, Canada. Margaret is a kinship adoptee, who did not discover until she was older that her adoptive family is her family. 

    She is the author of two books:  Adoption: The Truth Comes Out, and Overwhelmed by God's Grace, Uncovering the Truth about Adoption. 

    Margaret has a podcast: Maggie Closet Chats, on Spotify

    Mentioned in the podcast:

    Ontario, Canada adoptee access to records: www.ontario.ca/page/search-adoption-records#section-0

    Origins Canada: www.originscanada.org  An organization providing resources for those seperated by adoption

    Adoption Council of Ontario: Adoption.on.ca  An organization providing information and resources for all members of the adoption constellation

    Adoptee support groups:

    Adoption Trauma Network on Facebook and @adoptiontraumanet on Instagram

    Adoptees Connect: www.adopteesconnect.com


    Disclaimers: the host is not a lawyer. The opinions expressed by the host and their guests are simply that; opinions. 




    1 hr 18 min

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