The old conservative movement is always distracting us with the wrong issues at the wrong time while not only ignoring the issues at hand but downright being on the wrong side when it matters. I give some vivid examples of how the old conservative movement has failed us. We are also joined by Russ Vought of the Center for American Restoration to discuss the difference between conservatives who know what time it is and those who don’t. The former OMB director under Trump is leading the fight to push states to deport illegal aliens. He contends that all too often, conservatives overly obsesses about specific principles and strategies while losing their ultimate interests. He explains how he is building a national activist base to demand results and outcomes that follow our interests. 

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