Steven and Ian open with an acknowledgement of the show's fifth anniversary, which actually occurred a few weeks ago (0:30). From there, they note the announcement of yet another new Taylor Swift album and liken her to the MCU (3:43). They also talk about Steven's son recently getting into Eminem, and the scarcity of "danger-coded" music now (11:45). After that, they talk about the new Ethel Cain album and disagree slightly on its strengths and weaknesses (24:13). They also note the arrival of a new Chance The Rapper album, and how such news would have been a much bigger deal 10 years ago (33:43). Then they do a "yay or nay" on My Chemical Romance (46:00).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the slow-core band Teethe and Steven goes for veteran indie rocker Cass McCombs (49:52).

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