
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lucy Bedewi about transforming rejection into an engine for personal and professional growth. Lucy is based in Austin, Texas. Listeners and viewers will learn how Lucy reframed setbacks, used resilience and self-reflection to launch her “unicorn” business approach, and why embracing imperfection can lead to powerful transformations.
Lucy Bedewi is the brand messaging strategist and copywriter behind My Write Hand Woman. She’s known for her ability to connect the dots quickly and craft unique messaging angles that’ll turn normal businesses into unicorn brands. She has scaled her business to multi-6-figures by the age of 22, working with top coaches, irreverent brands, highly-differentiated businesses, and personality-packed e-commerce companies. Her story and work has been featured in Nasdaq, Thrive Global, and Create and Cultivate. An electric speaker and the host of the podcast Unicorn Messaging, Lucy inspires women to get clear on the articulation behind their business, move into their bigness, and create messaging that’s easy to buy from.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode: “You can be like the juiciest peach, but if someone only eats apples, they're never gonna see that you’re a delicious peach... It's never about you. It's also never about them.” — Lucy Bedewi
Timestamps: [00:00:05] Warm welcome and where Lucy calls home (Austin, Texas) [00:00:44] What Lucy loves about Austin’s climate, food, and lifestyle [00:01:11] Introducing the theme: seeing rejection as the start of great things [00:01:43] Fired from a remote job after 90 days—emotional impact and realities [00:02:36] Graduating during the pandemic and landing her first “adult” job [00:03:32] Early career expectations, red flags, and entrepreneurial leanings [00:06:13] Taking risks because of a safety net and “Jerry Maguire” moments [00:07:12] Launching a business out of spite and necessity; setting ambitious goals [00:09:32] Why Lucy pushed for three months to hit $5k/month—and how she did it [00:12:20] The second rejection: being cut from a startup and confronting undervaluation [00:15:07] The aftermath—scaling back, self-reflection, and emotional impact [00:16:14] Rebranding gone wrong, returning to personality and authenticity [00:17:55] Launching Unicorn Messaging: helping others become the “unicorn” in their industry [00:18:30] The process of self-discovery and breaking free from the need for approval [00:20:01] The mix of personality, coaching, and support required to bounce back [00:22:54] How to NOT internalize rejection—and practical reframes for moving forward [00:25:01] Comparing “bounce-back” stories; the deeper lessons of later rejection [00:26:18] Embracing letting go, trusting what’s meant for you, and future possibilities [00:27:26] About Lucy’s current business, special quiz offer, and where to follow her [00:28:46] Fun quickfire questions (birthdays, grocery shopping hacks, favorite books) [00:31:05] Closing gratitude and final thoughts
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.mywritehandwoman.com and Lucy has a podcast Unicorn Messaging: https://open.spotify.com/show/22xqeOiQGWzrTNaD2NmI03
GET LUCY'S SPECIAL OFFER:
FREE quiz: What's Your Brand Messaging Superpower?
https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/67979624c16f720015e296ad?method=iframe
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jacob Engelsman about redefining family, identity, and lactation support for queer and trans parents. Listeners will gain insights into Jacob’s transformative career change, the importance of specialized resources for marginalized families, and the power of creating community in unconventional spaces. Jacob is Based in Atlanta, GA.
Jacob Engelsman is an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant, infant care specialist, speaker, and writer. He is the author of Lactation for the Rest of Us: A Guide for Queer and Trans Parents and Helpers, as well as several articles and presentations on lactation support and supporting gender and sexual diversity in healthcare.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode:
“I think one of the things that's important to stress in conversations like these is that I'm not telling anybody to change their language about anything or to change the way they do anything. I'm asking people to be nice. If you don't feel comfortable working with trans communities, that's fine. Just know somebody that you can refer them to. That's literally the bare minimum.” — Jacob Engelsman
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://jacobengelsmanibclc.com/
GET JACOB'S BOOK: Lactation for the Rest of Us https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9781805011910
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Alisha Kapani about the reality of living with and healing from depression. Alisha is based in Calgary, Alberta in Canada. Alisha shares her deeply personal journey through severe depression, suicidal ideation, and her eventual discovery of unconditional joy after years of searching and trying both conventional and unconventional healing modalities. Listeners will hear about the importance of seeking the root cause of mental illness, the power of vulnerability, and how a shift in consciousness led Alisha to her own radically transformed life and a new career.
Alisha Kapani is a former Chemical Engineer turned Mindbody Mentor after struggling with severe depression for 5 years. She assists clients all over the world to tap into their body’s wisdom to resolve illness and access their highest possibilities for vitality and abundance.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode: “I think because so many people are managing their illness, whether it's a mental or physical illness, because they think that that is all that's available...I guess I just want people to know that once you get to the root cause, you can heal very quickly. I did heal pretty much right away once I figured out what the root cause was. On the other side of it is more joy than you've ever experienced in your life before.”— Alisha Kapani
Timestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome and Alisha’s home base in Calgary, Alberta
[00:00:41] Reflecting on learnings from the past year—epiphany around relationships and depression
[00:01:49] Trigger warning: depression, self-harm, suicidal ideation
[00:02:27] Timeline of Alisha’s depression and age at onset
[00:03:49] Working with medical professionals: diagnosis and medication journey
[00:06:31] Describing symptoms of depression—fatigue, lack of motivation, impact on relationships
[00:08:51] Recognizing depression: misattributing root causes, effect of life transitions
[00:10:14] Impact on work performance and relationships; perfectionism and stigma
[00:12:55] Relationship dynamics: depression and anxiety in partnerships
[00:15:33] Why share your story? Breaking stigma, possibilities for healing, hope for others
[00:19:28] Was there hope? The possibility of healing and experiencing greater joy
[00:21:05] Sources of support—role of family, friends, and especially stepmom
[00:23:44] Treatments tried: medical, therapeutic, and unconventional modalities
[00:26:06] Distraction as a coping strategy—work and busy schedules
[00:28:26] Surrender and openness: discovering a mentor and holistic healing
[00:30:59] How Alisha discovered her mentor and the science behind self-healing
[00:33:50] The challenge of understanding others’ experiences with mental health
[00:35:16] From engineer to intuitive—embracing spiritual healing
[00:36:24] Realizing transformation: unconditional peace and joy
[00:39:58] Alisha’s work as a mind body mentor; special offer for listeners
[00:41:44] Book recommendation—Love and Respect
[00:42:34] Favorite movie snack
[00:42:58] Episode wrap-up and gratitude
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.alishakapani.com/
GET ALISHA'S SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Ways to Raise Your Vibration Fast with Alisha’s Raise Your Vibration Bundle. Value: $100 Redeem at this link: https://alisha-kapani.mykajabi.com/3-ways-to-raise-your-vibration-fast
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Blythe Alpern about choosing self-fulfillment over the pressures of dating and conventional adulthood. Blythe calls Atlanta, Georgia home and listeners will enjoy candid reflections on how Blythe’s decision to stop “finding her person” led to personal growth, renewed focus on her passions, and a powerful reframing of self-worth.
Blythe Alpern is a copywriter and podcaster. As the founder of Wordwoman Creative, she helps beauty and lifestyle brands create website, email, and blog post content that makes their audience stop, stay, engage, and buy. As the host of The GenX Experience, which was recently recognized by AARP, she gives latch key kids a place to reminisce and share the joys of navigating midlife as an 80s kid. When she's not podcasting or copywriting, she's taking her dog, Buster, for long walks and working on maintaining her status as the coolest aunt to her nieces and nephew.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode: "I just got tired. I'm like, why am I putting effort when I'm not getting the effort back? And I deserve better. Every woman deserves better than a man with a picture of a fish." — Blythe Alpern
Timestamps: [00:00:05] Amy Stone welcomes Blythe for a role-reversal interview; Blythe calls Atlanta, Georgia home. [00:00:45] Blythe’s creative life, copywriting, and beauty industry work. [00:01:11] Introduction to the pivotal “relationship choice” of 2023. [00:01:46] Blythe recounts dating during perimenopause and the realization triggered by love bombing. [00:02:28] Key turning points—being unsupported during family loss and making a conscious shift away from dating apps. [00:04:11] Memories of app fatigue and “terrible, lazy, lackluster men”; Atlanta’s unique dating frustrations. [00:05:11] Ghosting, rudeness, and security concerns on dating apps. [00:06:29] Expanding beyond the apps—fatigue from singles events and choosing personal growth over dating urgency. [00:08:02] Processing the decision with friends, and recognizing shared pain points among single women. [00:09:28] Feedback and camaraderie from Blythe’s support network. [00:11:13] The freedom and fulfillment of focusing on solo living and creative projects. [00:12:27] Blythe’s personal acceptance around motherhood, reframing her nurturing instincts in new roles. [00:15:23] Generational scripts around adulthood, and how acceptance and visibility among peers eased Blythe’s journey. [00:18:36] Overcoming anxiety and introversion for solo outings and travel; advice for others working through similar hurdles. [00:19:52] Blythe’s copywriting business “Word Woman Creative” and her podcast “Gen X Experience.” [00:21:56] Gen X nostalgia, community, and Blythe’s favorite comedy influencers on social media. [00:26:13] Rapid-fire questions on favorite color, clothing stores, and book recommendations—featuring “The Correspondent.” [00:27:59] Reflection on the lost art of letter writing and maintaining connections as an adult. [00:28:15] Closing gratitude and farewells from Amy Stone and Blythe Alpern.
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: The GenX Experience Podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gen-x-experience/id1734296691
Wordwoman Creative: https://www.wordwomancreative.com/
GET BLYTHE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Book a done-for-you website content creation service, and receive a free strategy session to help you determine the best way to roll out your website launch(Valued at $450.). Use code: ADULTING
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Amy Benjamin about the overlooked realities and challenges of perimenopause and menopause. Amy Benjamin is based in a suburb of Des Moines, Iowa. The audience will learn about common symptoms that are frequently misunderstood, the lack of societal conversation, how Amy turned her struggles into advocacy, and how a renewed focus on humor and science is empowering women to advocate for better care.
Amy Benjamin Moore, M.Ed., turned 31 years in education into a menopause revolution. As a GGS-Certified Menopause Coaching Specialist, she built the Menopause Mastery Toolkit app and the Menopause Symptom Tracker app so women could stop suffering in silence and start advocating powerfully for themselves. In her debut book, Hot Flashes & Cold Truths (2026) she tackles menopause with education, humor, and strategies because menopause shouldn’t be whispered about; it should be owned.
Main Topics Covered:
Timestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & intro; Amy Benjamin’s Midwest home and outlook on daily joy
[00:00:39] Sources of beauty and daily nature rituals—adapting to Iowa winters
[00:02:07] Introduction to topic: Amy's “basket of physical and emotional symptoms” and medical journey
[00:03:39] Realization of menopause symptoms: joint pain, brain fog, memory issues, and stress in early 40s
[00:08:09] Lack of family/societal discussion about menopause—generational silence and missed opportunities
[00:13:30] The medical runaround: symptoms dismissed as aging, lack of hormone and menopause conversation
[00:14:03] Discovery of frozen shoulder—an overlooked menopause symptom and physician disconnect
[00:17:13] Doctors saying “You’re fine”—Amy’s frustration and the systemic lack of menopause education
[00:19:17] Minimal training for doctors on menopause; expert commentary
[00:22:23] Unexpected weight gain, irritability, impact on relationships and divorce
[00:24:28] Suicidal ideation flashes—mental health symptoms leading to help
[00:26:01] Extreme bleeding, ablation, still no mention of menopause by doctors
[00:28:41] Working in a female-majority environment—absence of conversation and recent shifts
[00:30:43] Amy’s motivation to support other women, break the silence, and advocate for her daughters
[00:33:01] Certification as a menopause coach—training and UK influence
[00:35:03] “Rooms talking about it”—social media, influencers, and connecting online
[00:36:18] Caution on menopause influencer marketing vs. genuine medical info
[00:38:01] Navigating the challenge of finding supportive medical practitioners—telehealth as a new option
[00:40:12] Self-advocacy in medical care; specific strategies, persistence, and moving on when not heard
[00:42:12] Resources for listeners: survival guide, symptom tracker, doctor visit checklist
[00:44:01] Amy’s upcoming book, use of humor in menopause advocacy
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://amybenjaminmoore.com/
GET AMY BENJAMIN'S SPECIAL OFFER: Menopause Survival Guide Free on the website.
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lori Balue about the journey of sustainable weight loss after 50, holistic functional health, and how embracing adventure can transform life in midlife and beyond. Lori calls Los Angeles home. The audience will learn about the impact of food sensitivities, inflammation, and the difference between dieting and truly changing your life.
Lori Balue is a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner and former obesity survivor who lost 100 pounds naturally in her 50s and has kept it off through low-carb nutrition, metabolic repair, and a movement-forward lifestyle. Now in her 60s, she hikes rim-to-rim across the Grand Canyon, runs half-marathons, and teaches women over 50 how to reverse metabolic dysfunction and reclaim their energy without medications or extreme dieting.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode:
"I look in my mirror, see, you know, I've still got, like, a flabby abdomen, and I'm 63, and I was 225 pounds, but I look and I feel slender. I feel slender and confident in my body, and I think that's great... I just started planning another half marathon and I'm going back to the Grand Canyon next September because this is what I love. And it keeps me activated and excited and joyful and happy. And I look forward to it." — Lori Balue 32:43
Timestamps:
00:08 Amy welcomes Lori and introduces the conversation about adulting, art, and daily beauty
00:39 Lori shares her home in the Los Angeles high desert and love of her victory garden
03:02 Shifting to the main topic: weight loss after age 50
04:24 Lori’s backstory—struggles with childhood/adolescent weight, first diet at age 11–12
06:07 A lifetime of diet programs, food cravings, and learning what did (and didn’t) work
10:18 The turning point: functional nutrition, discovering keto, and what changed for brain health and joy
15:51 Functional lab testing for food sensitivities—and finally reversing long-term asthma and inflammation
20:19 Personalized transformation: experimenting, testing, and finally cracking the code
22:40 Why profound, lasting change only happened when joy and health—not thinness—became the goals
27:05 Commentary on weight loss meds, protein, and food “noise” today
29:04 Discovering her adventurous self through movement, hiking, and the Grand Canyon
37:45 Lori’s practice: Functional Diagnostic Nutrition, breaking blocks, and helping women reclaim health
43:13 Fun closing: flowers, decorating, and the health tech/gadgets Lori now loves
48:29 Gratitude and farewell
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST:https://loribalue.com/
GET LORI'S SPECIAL OFFER: A downloadable recipe guide. Normally $27. Download here: https://contact.loribalue.com/recipebook
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Darlene Lekowski about the lifelong impact of sibling sexual trauma and the journey of letting go of secrets that shaped her adult life. Darlene lives in the Charlotte, NC suburbs with her husband, Tom, their dog Pepper, and is the proud mother of three adult children. Listeners will learn how the process of opening up allowed Darlene to move from perfectionism and hypervigilance to forgiveness, healing, and connection.
About Darlene Lekowski:
Darlene Lekowski is a speaker, author, and advocate who writes and speaks about what happens when high-functioning adults realize that control and perfection aren’t peace—they’re survival strategies. After decades of striving to “hold it all together,” Darlene was forced to confront the emotional cost of living this way and learn, imperfectly, how to let go.
Her debut memoir, Shattering Silence: A Story of Survival, Justice & the Power of Telling the Truth (April 2026), chronicles her journey of reclaiming her voice, redefining success, and choosing freedom over fear.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode:
"The problem, when you've got a giant secret, the box leaks... I had PTSD all my life, but I actually wasn't diagnosed with it until I was 58 years old. I thought my behaviors were normal." — Darlene Lekowski
Timestamps:
00:05 Opening & intros; Darlene’s Charlotte, NC home and warmup questions
00:34 Proximity to mountains and ocean; Charlotte lifestyle and history fleeing snowy states
01:24 Amy’s perspective from the tropics; setting the scene for a conversation on control and secrets
02:10 Darlene’s midlife confrontation with trauma; timeline and context of her secret
02:47 How her mother’s death and family dynamics led to her secret surfacing
03:35 Civil trial details; trauma in court, family structure, and relationships
04:08 Childhood abuse between siblings, control issues, and survival mechanisms
07:11 Perfectionism, hypervigilance, and adult life before telling the secret
09:02 Sports, popularity, and strategies to avoid being alone at home
10:19 Parenting as an overprotective mom; shifting relationships after the truth was revealed
12:10 Direct fears, coping, and the psychological weight of secrets
14:34 How shame and trauma “leak” into all relationships—friends, colleagues, and self-image
17:23 Examples of outsize reactions; healing journey and day-to-day changes after releasing the secret
19:13 Close friendships, difficulty forming intimacy, and pivotal moments in recovery
20:19 Confrontation, PTSD episode with her daughter, and major turning point
22:03 Suppressing vs. confronting trauma after her mother’s death; blowup with sibling and lawsuit
24:33 Long-term therapy, diagnosis of PTSD, and alternative healing (EFT tapping)
27:59 Losing relationships with abusive siblings, family impact, and trial testimony
30:29 Thoughts on secrets and privacy; why families keep trauma hidden
33:39 The importance of open conversations with children and the prevalence of sibling sexual trauma
35:11 Making the trauma public; support from children and transforming fear into connection
36:40 Emotional healing after the trial; shedding anger and shame
38:29 The ongoing journey of healing and finding purpose in helping others
40:41 Publishing her book, Shattering: A Story of Survival, Justice and the Power of Telling the Truth
41:24 Darlene’s hope for the book and her outreach mission
42:23 Rapid-fire closing questions: morning routine, favorite book (The Women), travel habits
44:22 Episode wrap-up and thanks
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: darlene-lekowski.com Instagram: @darlenelekowski
GET DARLENE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Darlene’s first book will be available in April 2026.
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Toni Will, a lifelong resident of Kalamazoo, Michigan about breaking free from alcohol as a coping tool and redefining what sober success looks like.
About Toni Will:
Toni Will is a leadership coach, speaker, and the General Manager of the Kalamazoo Wings, making her one of the few women leading in men’s professional hockey. She is the host of the Women In… podcast, a TEDx speaker, and the creator of the empowHER conference, dedicated to uplifting women and redefining success in male-dominated spaces. Toni is known for her unapologetic authenticity and her advocacy for alcohol-free living, blending high-performance leadership with personal clarity and conscious living. Her first book will be published in August 2026, further amplifying her mission to help others own their story, challenge the norm, and lead with intention.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode: “Whoever said that you had to drink to be a great leader? ...It’s just all these beliefs that are programmed into us and not in a culty way, but just culturally.” — Toni Will
Timestamps:
00:01 Introduction to Toni Will and the topic of choosing new coping skills
02:07 Toni shares where she calls home and her approach to incorporating beauty into daily life
04:02 The timeline of Toni’s sobriety journey and previous attempts to quit drinking
05:51 Life before sobriety: career stress, family dynamics, and making the decision during COVID lockdowns
08:56 Alcohol as a coping tool, early experiences with drinking, and societal influences
12:53 Going public with her decision to quit drinking and gaining support from her husband and community
13:38 The realities of leading a men’s professional hockey team as a woman, and the cultural context of sports and drinking
15:38 Physical and emotional consequences of drinking, and challenging the concept of “rock bottom”
18:23 Support systems, stigma, and balancing leadership with living alcohol-free
20:33 The process of finding alternative recovery resources like "This Naked Mind" and Sober Sis
24:00 Representation, leadership models, and the value of learning from empowering women
28:21 The role of core values in lasting change and the influence on personal and professional life
31:10 Coping skills, processing grief, and the complexity of friendship and belonging after transformation
33:13 Toni’s entrepreneurial journey: launching a coaching business, podcast, conference, and writing a book
35:21 Fun wrap-up: sober drink choices, mentors, and in-flight entertainment preferences
38:45 Final thoughts, ways to connect, and community resources for listeners
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.toniwill.com/ You can find her podcast Women In … https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/women-in/id1745524618
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
Amy Stone, host of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, marks a huge milestone—200 episodes—by reflecting on the choices, pivots, and lessons learned behind the scenes of the show. In this episode, Amy gets real about navigating life transitions, staying true to her values, and building a more inclusive space for women and creators.
About Amy Stone: Amy Stone is a media entrepreneur, storyteller, and founder of The Art of Imperfect Adulting - a growing media platform featuring long-form interviews that explore the messy, non-linear reality of building a life.
Topics covered:
• Celebrating 200 episodes and Amy’s personal growth journey as a creator
• Transparency around what works—and what doesn’t
• Behind the scenes: experimenting with tech upgrades, building a creative team, and her ongoing search for a creator-first community
• Special shout-out to listeners who’ve been part of the journey since the start
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Belinda Coker about reinventing life through adventure and self-discovery, focusing on solo multi-day hiking as a transformative tool. Belinda splits her time between Australia, New Zealand, and Scotland. In this conversation she shares a change she made starting in her mid-50s that resulted in challenges, unexpected joys, and a profound sense of self-worth. About Belinda Coker:
Belinda Coker is an Australian hiker and educator who shows women how practical adventure can restore confidence and clarity in midlife. After years of building businesses and raising three children on her own, she began hiking to find space and perspective, a journey that took her from the deserts of Australia to a solo crossing of Greenland inside the Arctic Circle. Belinda is also the founder of Soul Treader and The House Sitting Collective, where she teaches a structured, professional approach to trusted, responsible travel.
Main Topics Covered:
Quote from the Episode:
“I just felt that I really was someone to myself...I just really felt like I’d done something for myself, and that really was just so, so important. I can’t stress how good that made me feel.”—Belinda Coker
Timestamps: [00:00:06] Amy welcomes Belinda and discusses where she calls home and her ties to New Zealand, Australia, and Scotland
[00:01:42] Initial impressions of Scotland and the allure of wilderness versus developed environments
[00:03:05] Belinda’s three stages of solo travel: from youthful adventures to international business trips and a post-pandemic return to hiking
[00:06:05] The moment of self-realization at 55 and how the pandemic fueled her return to the outdoors
[00:09:05] Starting over with day hikes, joining a local meetup group, and rediscovering health and confidence
[00:12:27] First foray into overnight hiking, overcoming obstacles, and the liberating experience of her seven-day solo hike
[00:17:00] How friends and family reacted to her decision and the importance of choosing supportive confidants
[00:20:03] Lessons learned on the first multi-day hike: food, safety, preparation, and the realities of trail life
[00:28:25] Pursuing skills to level up: Wilderness first aid, writing educational resources, and the dangers of unprepared hiking
[00:29:43] Most recent hiking setback in the Canary Islands: managing gear failure, dangerous weather, and emergency decision-making
[00:39:20] Upcoming hiking projects, the practicality of early retirement, and the value of simple/frugal living
[00:42:49] Life as a full-time traveler, house sitter, and educator—plus a special offer for the podcast audience
[00:45:29] Belinda’s quick takes on weather, travel routines, and what animals she really fears in Australia
[00:48:09] Final thanks and closing remarks from Amy
ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.
CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://soultreader.com/
GET BELINDA’'S SPECIAL OFFER:The House Sitting Collective, - House Sitting Courses
20% off all courses (Retail Value $79 & $197)
https://housesittingcollective.com/ CODE: ADULTING
Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support
If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest
Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.
Why subscribe?
Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com
Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)
For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69
Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi
Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590
Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj
For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone
before that I used Kit.
Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
From the publisher's feed