Political arguments and cultural debates have become indivisible in recent years and this episode explores ideas around controlling culture from above. Hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman will hear from a British politician who says he’d return the controversial “Elgin Marbles” to Greece if he had the chance and, as China cracks down on dissenting voices with its national security law for Hong Kong, they also speak to an artist who recently left the city for fear of her safety. What happens when governments try to control culture? Tune in to find out.

Guests: Farah Nayeri, Tiffany Sia, The Rt Hon Lord Smith of Finsbury, The Rt Hon Lord Vaizey of Didcot and Amy Webb