Father Matthew Widder joined Patrick for a conversation about Christ's Ascension into heaven. Topics included: why Jesus had to ascend (2:41), Jesus as intercession (9:14), resurrection of the body (19:18), hope and the ascension (23:41), caller: I loved how Jesus helped the apostles navigate the Ascension (33:41), where Jesus ascended (39:52), caller: Jesus empowers the Church to mission (44:34).