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St. Isaac the Syrian leads us into a subtle yet decisive truth about the spiritual life: to taste of God rightly, one must be weaned from the world—not only from its visible distractions and passions, but also from the premature grasping of spiritual visions and insights. Renunciation, for Isaac, is not merely the abandonment of external goods; it is the letting go of everything that agitates, excites, or exceeds the soul’s present capacity.
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Text of chat during the group:
00:05:39 Bob Čihák, AZ: Our current book is “The Ascetical Homilies of Saint Isaac the Syrian, revised 2nd Edition” 2011, published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery, https://www.bostonmonks.com/product_info.php/products_id/635 . This hard-covered book is on the expensive side but of very high quality.
00:26:41 carolnypaver: Page # ?
00:26:51 Andrew Adams: 148
00:26:59 carolnypaver: Reacted to "148" with 👍
00:28:34 Myles Davidson: I love these mystical passages of Isaac. No-one gets closest to being able to express the inexpressible as he is able.
00:28:46 Ben: Reacted to "I love these mystica..." with 👍
00:28:49 Bob Čihák, AZ: Reacted to "I love these mystica..." with 👍
00:30:22 Joshua Sander: Feel free to simply say, "He'll get to that," if Isaac expounds upon this later, but what, in Isaac's view, is the place of intellect in this way of going about the spiritual life? How can the intellect serve as an aid to this rather than, as it often has in the West, as a barrier to it?
00:32:12 Gwen’s iPhone: Didn’t St. Francis worry about that.
00:35:03 Myles Davidson: Someone has done an audiobook of Orthodox Psychotherapy on YouTube if anyone is interested
00:35:59 Eleana: Reacted to "Someone has done an ..." with 👍
00:36:07 Russ’s iPhone: How does Isaac integrate the emotions into the spiritual life and their impact on contemplation, our intellect, nous and our ability to discern our experience of God. Is his approach to the spiritual life highly intellectual?
00:36:14 David: What happened to Evargius Pontus did pride later take hold of him I find it strange he had so much insight but is not a Saint and from what I read apparently deviated in the end of his life.
00:36:14 Lee Graham: Reacted to "Someone has done an …" with 👍
00:36:25 Myles Davidson: Replying to "Someone has done an ..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoDG3c_p7-U
00:38:01 David: I have read most of what Evarigus wrote and Talking Back is amazing.
00:38:13 Adam Paige: Reacted to "Someone has done an …" with 👍
00:40:03 Ryan Ngeve: Reacted to "Someone has done an …" with 👍
00:42:14 Bob Čihák, AZ: Reminds me of Lossky: "All theology is mystical theology" in his book "Mystical Rtheology."
00:42:41 Bob Čihák, AZ: Theology
00:43:33 Gwen’s iPhone: It just hit me that Francis was concerned about intellectual that it would take him away from following Christ. He let others like Bonaventure to be more intellectual.
00:44:33 Mary 🕊️: What should we do if we find it very difficult to identify our sin?
00:44:45 Erick Chastain: The kephalia gnostika by evagrius is said to have problematic passages. See the timios pro dromos commentary on the evagrian ascetical system for details.
00:46:25 Eleana: The sorrowful mother to revel the heart's mysteries as Simon said during the presentation of Christ her pierced heart.
00:47:24 Anna: I find minimal weekly confession and if necessary more, makes one more sensitive to see our sins with clarity. It's like unpeeling an onion.
00:49:07 Zack Morgan: Even St. Poemen turned his own mother away which made her happy with an attitude of "would you rather see me now or not distract me from my prayer and fasting so that you can more assuredly see me in heaven".
00:50:20 Catherine Opie: Reacted to "I find minimal weekl..." with 👍🏻
00:51:01 carolnypaver: Reacted to "I find minimal weekl..." with ❤️
00:51:57 carolnypaver: Reacted to "Even St. Poemen turn..." with 😮
00:53:38 Adam Paige: Reacted to "I have read most of …" with ☦️
00:54:46 Catherine Opie: Fr. does the saying of "for these and any other sins..." during the act of contrition at confession cover this aspect of ourselves not being able to perceive or remember every single sin? If we are truly repentant and contrite?
00:55:38 Mary 🕊️: Two more questions....What does a purified heart look like? How do we recognize if our heart is becoming purified?
00:57:35 Una: Who wrote the book The Ascetical Art? Is that the correct title?
00:57:49 carolnypaver: Replying to "Who wrote the book T..."
Heart
00:58:01 carolnypaver: Replying to "Who wrote the book T..."
Not art
01:02:08 Una: Oh, thank you! I can't find any book with the title The Ascetical Art
01:03:33 Adam Paige: Replying to "Oh, thank you! I can…"
01:04:15 Myles Davidson: Reacted to "Maybe you could writ..." with 🙏
01:07:38 Eleana: Replying to "Oh, thank you! I can..."
I print them and meditated them during my work day.
01:08:01 Una: I guess it's not a book tthen? At least, not ye
01:08:05 Una: yet
01:13:09 Naina: Thank you Father 🙏✝️
01:13:14 Anna: Can you explain about Saturday
01:13:32 Maureen Cunningham: Thank you Lords Blessing to all Prayers for Father
01:13:38 Una: He gives extra talks on some Saturdays, Anna
01:13:54 Una: evenings, around 7 pm
01:13:55 Anna: How do I sign up
01:14:01 Andrew Adams: Thanks be to God! Thank you, Father!
01:14:01 Una: You'll get an email
01:14:02 Rebecca Thérèse: Thank you☺️
01:14:06 Catherine Opie: Thank you so much Fr. God bless! have a blessed weekend. I always include you in my prayers.
01:14:09 David: Thank you Father and God bless you and your mother
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St. Isaac the Syrian leads us into a subtle yet decisive truth about the spiritual life: to taste of God rightly, one must be weaned from the world—not only from its visible distractions and passions, but also from the premature grasping of spiritual visions and insights. Renunciation, for Isaac, is not merely the abandonment of external goods; it is the letting go of everything that agitates, excites, or exceeds the soul’s present capacity.
---
Text of chat during the group:
00:05:39 Bob Čihák, AZ: Our current book is “The Ascetical Homilies of Saint Isaac the Syrian, revised 2nd Edition” 2011, published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery, https://www.bostonmonks.com/product_info.php/products_id/635 . This hard-covered book is on the expensive side but of very high quality.
00:26:41 carolnypaver: Page # ?
00:26:51 Andrew Adams: 148
00:26:59 carolnypaver: Reacted to "148" with 👍
00:28:34 Myles Davidson: I love these mystical passages of Isaac. No-one gets closest to being able to express the inexpressible as he is able.
00:28:46 Ben: Reacted to "I love these mystica..." with 👍
00:28:49 Bob Čihák, AZ: Reacted to "I love these mystica..." with 👍
00:30:22 Joshua Sander: Feel free to simply say, "He'll get to that," if Isaac expounds upon this later, but what, in Isaac's view, is the place of intellect in this way of going about the spiritual life? How can the intellect serve as an aid to this rather than, as it often has in the West, as a barrier to it?
00:32:12 Gwen’s iPhone: Didn’t St. Francis worry about that.
00:35:03 Myles Davidson: Someone has done an audiobook of Orthodox Psychotherapy on YouTube if anyone is interested
00:35:59 Eleana: Reacted to "Someone has done an ..." with 👍
00:36:07 Russ’s iPhone: How does Isaac integrate the emotions into the spiritual life and their impact on contemplation, our intellect, nous and our ability to discern our experience of God. Is his approach to the spiritual life highly intellectual?
00:36:14 David: What happened to Evargius Pontus did pride later take hold of him I find it strange he had so much insight but is not a Saint and from what I read apparently deviated in the end of his life.
00:36:14 Lee Graham: Reacted to "Someone has done an …" with 👍
00:36:25 Myles Davidson: Replying to "Someone has done an ..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoDG3c_p7-U
00:38:01 David: I have read most of what Evarigus wrote and Talking Back is amazing.
00:38:13 Adam Paige: Reacted to "Someone has done an …" with 👍
00:40:03 Ryan Ngeve: Reacted to "Someone has done an …" with 👍
00:42:14 Bob Čihák, AZ: Reminds me of Lossky: "All theology is mystical theology" in his book "Mystical Rtheology."
00:42:41 Bob Čihák, AZ: Theology
00:43:33 Gwen’s iPhone: It just hit me that Francis was concerned about intellectual that it would take him away from following Christ. He let others like Bonaventure to be more intellectual.
00:44:33 Mary 🕊️: What should we do if we find it very difficult to identify our sin?
00:44:45 Erick Chastain: The kephalia gnostika by evagrius is said to have problematic passages. See the timios pro dromos commentary on the evagrian ascetical system for details.
00:46:25 Eleana: The sorrowful mother to revel the heart's mysteries as Simon said during the presentation of Christ her pierced heart.
00:47:24 Anna: I find minimal weekly confession and if necessary more, makes one more sensitive to see our sins with clarity. It's like unpeeling an onion.
00:49:07 Zack Morgan: Even St. Poemen turned his own mother away which made her happy with an attitude of "would you rather see me now or not distract me from my prayer and fasting so that you can more assuredly see me in heaven".
00:50:20 Catherine Opie: Reacted to "I find minimal weekl..." with 👍🏻
00:51:01 carolnypaver: Reacted to "I find minimal weekl..." with ❤️
00:51:57 carolnypaver: Reacted to "Even St. Poemen turn..." with 😮
00:53:38 Adam Paige: Reacted to "I have read most of …" with ☦️
00:54:46 Catherine Opie: Fr. does the saying of "for these and any other sins..." during the act of contrition at confession cover this aspect of ourselves not being able to perceive or remember every single sin? If we are truly repentant and contrite?
00:55:38 Mary 🕊️: Two more questions....What does a purified heart look like? How do we recognize if our heart is becoming purified?
00:57:35 Una: Who wrote the book The Ascetical Art? Is that the correct title?
00:57:49 carolnypaver: Replying to "Who wrote the book T..."
Heart
00:58:01 carolnypaver: Replying to "Who wrote the book T..."
Not art
01:02:08 Una: Oh, thank you! I can't find any book with the title The Ascetical Art
01:03:33 Adam Paige: Replying to "Oh, thank you! I can…"
01:04:15 Myles Davidson: Reacted to "Maybe you could writ..." with 🙏
01:07:38 Eleana: Replying to "Oh, thank you! I can..."
I print them and meditated them during my work day.
01:08:01 Una: I guess it's not a book tthen? At least, not ye
01:08:05 Una: yet
01:13:09 Naina: Thank you Father 🙏✝️
01:13:14 Anna: Can you explain about Saturday
01:13:32 Maureen Cunningham: Thank you Lords Blessing to all Prayers for Father
01:13:38 Una: He gives extra talks on some Saturdays, Anna
01:13:54 Una: evenings, around 7 pm
01:13:55 Anna: How do I sign up
01:14:01 Andrew Adams: Thanks be to God! Thank you, Father!
01:14:01 Una: You'll get an email
01:14:02 Rebecca Thérèse: Thank you☺️
01:14:06 Catherine Opie: Thank you so much Fr. God bless! have a blessed weekend. I always include you in my prayers.
01:14:09 David: Thank you Father and God bless you and your mother

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