Ravi sits down with Brandon Brown, CEO of The Mind Trust, to explore the groundbreaking education reforms that have elevated Indianapolis into a national example of excellence in public education. From charter schools to innovative community-driven models, Brandon shares how educators and advocates have harnessed the three pillars of success—autonomy, accountability, and leadership—to build a sustainable, bipartisan coalition in support of transformative change. Ravi and Brandon then delve into the evolving political landscape and emerging forms of school choice, unpacking how these forces will shape the future of education. Finally, they turn to the future and discuss what true innovation in education means in 2025 and how it can redefine opportunities for students nationwide.

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