Talking Billions with Bogumil Baranowski

The Big Money's Made in the Big Moves: Samantha McLemore on Value Investing and Bill Miller's Legacy


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An insightful conversation with Samantha McLemore, founder and CIO of Patient Capital Management, who spent over two decades investing alongside famed value investor Bill Miller before founding her own firm in 2020.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Early Influences & Career Path (03:46 - 10:45)

  • Sam's humble beginnings and early relationship with money
  • Working from age 12 and saving money through college
  • First investing experience with college funds in Dell Computer during the late 90s
  • Meeting Bill Miller at college and winning the "job lottery"

Investment Philosophy (10:45 - 25:45)

  • The power of long-term compounding
  • Thinking about stocks as ownership of real businesses
  • Lessons learned from Bill Miller: "The big money's made in the big moves"
  • Value investing that includes growth companies at reasonable prices
  • Looking beyond traditional financial statements

The Amazon Story & Jeff Bezos (25:45 - 39:45)

  • Meetings with Jeff Bezos and his insights
  • The brilliance of Bezos' long-term thinking
  • Bezos' focus on what won't change rather than what will
  • The benefit of public markets - participating in others' success

Investment Strategy & Client Relationships (39:45 - 48:45)

  • "Volatility is the price you pay for returns"
  • The ideal client profile for Patient Capital's approach
  • Maximizing long-term capital growth versus capital preservation
  • The importance of having clients who understand drawdowns are part of the process

Navigating Market Volatility (48:45 - 57:45)

  • The futility of trying to time the market
  • The importance of time in the market versus timing the market
  • Managing stress during market downturns
  • Daily meditation, exercise, and journaling as stress management tools

Women in Investing (57:45 - 61:45)

  • Advocating for more women in investing
  • The power of role models
  • Natural advantages women may have as investors

Active vs. Passive Investing (61:45 - 68:45)

  • Thoughts on the rise of passive investing
  • The concentration of the S&P 500 in top names
  • How passive could change in a prolonged sideways market
  • The importance of maintaining confidence during market downturns

Definition of Success (68:45 - end)

  • Success as happiness, fulfillment, and being proud of contributions
  • Beyond financial metrics to personal satisfaction

Memorable Quotes

  • "Compounding is so powerful. It should be taught so much earlier to everyone."
  • "Volatility is the price you pay for returns."
  • "The big money's made in the big moves."
  • "Loss and pain is part of the process of growth and compounding. It is what you're paid for."
  • "If you want something, go for it. There's always a shot."
  • "The most powerful force in markets is compounding and the long-term time horizon."
  • "If you are happy, fulfilled, content, and proud of your contributions, that's success."Podcast Program – Disclosure Statement

Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice.

Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.

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