This episode originally aired on December 5, 2019.

Joanna spoke with the brilliant Doree Shafrir, who helped originate and popularize the phrase "Generation Catalano," referring to those of us who fall in that hazy middle-space between Gen X and Millenial. We've got generational conversation aplenty, plus Doree's thoughts on the episode "Pressure" and some of the larger arcs of the series!

**This interview will contain spoilers!**

You can read Doree's 2011 article on Slate here: https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/generation-catalano-the-generation-stuck-between-gen-x-and-the-millennials.html

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