Jeroen Derwort: Entrepreneur & Game Developer | Building Online Soccer Manager and Beyond
The importance of finishing projects and taking ownership of outcomes
How entrepreneurship naturally followed product success
Podcast
Overview
In this insightful episode of The Brand Called You, host Ashutosh Garg sits down with Jeroen Derwort—entrepreneur, game developer, and author of Score! Online Soccer Manager: From the Attic to the Arena. Together, they explore Jeroen’s journey from a childhood spent in isolation with computers to building a globally successful gaming platform and ultimately sharing his hard-earned lessons with the next generation of founders.
00:00:54 — What early experiences shaped Jeroen’s product-building philosophy?
The importance of finishing projects and taking ownership of outcomesHow entrepreneurship naturally followed product successCustomers care about the final result, not the building process
00:01:43 — How did Jeroen overcome introversion to lead teams and negotiate deals?
The challenges of leadership and negotiation as an introvertBootstrapping allowed gradual growth and confidence buildingSupport from co-founder Frank helped share responsibilitiesPractice and necessity improved leadership skills over time
00:02:46 — How does Jeroen now define his role in the tech and startup ecosystem?
Transition after selling two companies and navigating personal challengesInvolvement with the local university’s game lab, mentoring studentsChairman of the Dutch Games Association, supporting the growth of the Dutch game industryContinuing personal game development to stay current and keep learning
00:03:54 — Why does the book begin with childhood struggles?
It makes the story more relatable for readers facing similar challengesJeroen prefers storytelling over instructional writingVulnerability helps illustrate the real journey to success
00:04:49 — How did isolation shape the way Jeroen built online communities?
Early solitary experiences with his MSX computerBuilding the OSM online community became a transformative experienceLearning to filter feedback while balancing vision and community inputThe importance of staying committed to long-term plans despite distractions
00:05:59 — What problem did OSM’s design solve?
Frustration with football manager games that were mostly solo experiencesDesire for social gameplay where friends could compete togetherUse of real club and player names for authenticityIntroduction of the “one-season rule” to keep gameplay fresh and welcoming
00:09:43 — Why is the “one-season rule” fundamental to OSM?
Players can easily enter and exit leagues with friendsDaily matches increase engagement and excitementThe system creates a recurring “heartbeat” for the game, keeping competition active
00:11:01 — Why share failures and bad hires in the book?
Mistakes are universal learning experiencesThey humanize the entrepreneurial journeyExample: Overinvesting in office space in anticipation of growth in China that never materialized
00:12:56 — What defines a healthy founder relationship?
Mutual respect and trustClearly defined and complementary rolesConflict resolved through collaboration and shared commitment
00:14:22 — How did intense stress shape Jeroen’s leadership style?
Constant stress rarely improves decision-makingLegal challenges with organizations like AC Milan and the Bundesliga ultimately led to positive outcomesConflict can sometimes spark growth and opportunity
00:15:29 — Why are money tensions rarely discussed openly in startups?
Founders often hesitate to admit financial strugglesMany prefer to project success externallyHonest reflection often only happens later, such as during writing
Learn more about Jeroen Derwort: LinkedIn
The hardest stories to tell are often the most personal ones. Jeroen opens his book with the vulnerability of his youth and concludes with the emotional period of selling his company and going through a divorce. No founder’s journey is purely about glamour and success—there is courage in honesty.
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