The Brink

The Brink

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Welcome to your much-needed antidote to centrist dad podcasts. Presented by Daily Telegraph columnist and foreign correspondent Jake Wallis Simons and former parachute regiment officer and geopolitica... more

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  1. Number 1: The Arab Case for Israel with Hussain Abdul-Hussain

    Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://thebrinkpodcast.substack.com In this episode of The Brink, Jake is joined by Hussain Abdul-Hussain, author of The Arab Case for Israel, for a fascinating conversation about Israel, the Arab world, and why he believes peace requires a fundamental change in the way the Middle East thinks about politics, identity, and prosperity. Growing up between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and Hezbollah-dominated Baalbek, Hussain absorbed the politics of Arab nationalism, sectarianism, and hostility towards Israel. He explains how moving to Beirut, encountering different religious communities, and eventually teaching himself Hebrew by listening to Israeli radio transformed his understanding of the Jewish state. Hussain argues that much of the Arab world has prioritised land, honour, and historical grievance over economic prosperity and individual liberty. Drawing on the UAE and the Abraham Accords, he makes the case for a different model: abandoning permanent conflict with Israel, raising living standards, and allowing political reform to emerge gradually rather than through revolution. The conversation also explores the decline of Christian and Jewish minorities across the Middle East, Hezbollah’s grip on Lebanon, the prospects for Arab-Israeli normalisation, and why Hussain believes many ordinary Arabs may be considerably more open to peace than their governments and political movements suggest. Don't forget to check out our merch store: https://www.thebrinkmerch.com/ Chapters 00:00 From Hezbollah Sympathiser To Supporting Israel 02:43 The Arab Case For Israel 04:17 Why Hussein Changed His Mind 09:13 Prosperity, Palestine & National Pride 21:46 Minorities In The Muslim World 28:33 Growing Up Around Hezbollah 35:53 How Beirut Changed Everything 38:01 Discovering The Real Israel 42:52 Why Hussein Broke With The Left 47:15 Can The Arab World Really Change? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  2. Number 2: “I Was Brainwashed Into Hating Jews” | Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://thebrinkpodcast.substack.com In this episode of The Brink, Jake is joined by author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali for a wide-ranging conversation about Islam, antisemitism, Israel, and what she sees as a crisis of confidence across Western civilisation. Drawing on her own journey from growing up as a Muslim to leaving Islam and more recently converting to Christianity, Ayaan reflects on her changing relationship with Jews and Israel. She argues that the West has misunderstood the ideological challenge posed by Islamism and discusses whether meaningful reform within Islam is possible. The conversation explores the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, the growth of Islamist movements in Europe and America, and why Ayaan believes Western freedoms have been exploited by organisations seeking to undermine liberal societies. She also sets out the five forces she believes are driving modern antisemitism, from immigration and the internet to the wider political realignment taking place across the West. Finally, Jake and Ayaan discuss Christianity, the decline of religious confidence in Europe, and why she believes the West must rediscover its Judeo-Christian foundations. Drawing on her recent return to Israel, Ayaan argues that the country's sense of identity and purpose offers lessons for Western societies struggling with their own cultural uncertainty. A conversation about Islam, Israel, Christianity, antisemitism, and whether the West can rediscover the confidence to defend its own civilisation. Don't forget to check out our merch store: https://www.thebrinkmerch.com/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:52 Growing Up With Hatred of Jews 06:13 Is “Radical Islam” Really Radical? 08:57 Muslims, Islam & the Problem of Doctrine 16:53 Can Islam Be Reformed? 17:00 The Origins of Modern Islamism 20:24 Where Modern Antisemitism Comes From 25:00 Moderate Islam & the Muslim World 28:42 The Muslim Brotherhood in the West 33:52 The Five Causes of Modern Antisemitism 38:41 Islamophobia & Silencing Criticism of Islamism 44:58 How the West Lost Confidence in Itself Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  3. Number 3: The lies we believed about jihadism after 9/11

    In this episode of View from the Brink, Jake Wallis Simons reflects on the 25th anniversary of 9/11 and asks how the West has become increasingly confused about the difference between its friends and its enemies. Jake traces the consequences of September 11th through Afghanistan, Iraq, and the rise of jihadism, arguing that while the West fought Islamist extremism abroad, its propagandists became increasingly effective at exploiting Western institutions, social media, and the progressive left. Turning to October 7th and Israel, Jake argues that the response to the Hamas attacks exposed the scale of this information war, with misinformation spreading rapidly while sympathy for Israel collapsed. Twenty-five years after 9/11, Jake argues that the West must recover the confidence to recognise its enemies, defend its allies, and resist the propaganda designed to turn it against itself. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  4. Number 4: The Middle East, Zionism and The West’s New “Religion”

    Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://thebrinkpodcast.substack.com In this episode of The Brink, Andrew and Jake are joined by bestselling historian and author Simon Sebag Montefiore for a sweeping conversation about the history of the Middle East and his new book, The Cauldron: The Making of the Modern Middle East. Sebag challenges many of the assumptions shaping today's debates about Israel, Islam, and the wider region. He explains why Islam cannot be treated as a single political or religious force, why Israel is in many ways more typical of Middle Eastern history than Western audiences realise, and how Zionism fits into a much longer history of Jewish attachment to the Holy Land. The conversation also examines what Sebag describes as the West's almost religious commitment to the two-state solution, despite the realities on the ground. From the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of modern nation-states to Turkey, Iran, and the decline of Christianity across the region, he explores how history continues to shape today's conflicts. Finally, we look at America's changing role in the Middle East and the emergence of a new geopolitical order in which conflicts from Ukraine and the Caucasus to the Horn of Africa are increasingly interconnected. Chapters 00:00 The Two-State Solution Has Become A Religion 02:28 Simon Sebag Montefiore On The Brink 07:25 The Truth About Islam 13:37 Israel’s Crisis From Within 18:50 Will Israel Survive Its Divisions? 24:15 The Real History Of Zionism 30:44 Why The Two-State Solution Keeps Failing 32:12 The West’s Contradiction On Nationalism 35:36 Does The Middle East Need America? 45:37 Why Israel Isn’t Historically Exceptional Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  5. Number 5: Rock ‘n' Roll's disturbing hatred of Israel - David Draiman

    Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://thebrinkpodcast.substack.com In this episode of The Brink, Andrew is joined by David Draiman, frontman of Disturbed, for a deeply personal conversation about October 7th, antisemitism, Israel and why he has refused to remain silent despite the potential cost to his career. Drawing on his own experiences of antisemitism and his family's history, from grandparents who survived Auschwitz and Dachau to relatives who served in the IDF, Draiman explains why defending the Jewish people has always been central to his identity. He reflects on how October 7th transformed that fight and why the reaction that followed left him deeply concerned about the future of Jews in the West. Draiman also addresses one of the most controversial moments of his activism: writing “F*ck Hamas" on an Israeli artillery shell. He explains why he has no regrets, while also speaking candidly about Palestinian suffering, his hopes for coexistence, and his belief that Israelis and Palestinians ultimately deserve a future beyond perpetual war. Finally, Draiman reflects on the power of music after Disturbed's Hold On to Memories was played at the funeral of Shiri, Ariel, and Kfir Bibas, and on his friendship with Yarden Bibas. He explains why, whatever the professional consequences of speaking out, being able to act according to his conscience matters more than becoming "the next Metallica." Don't forget to check out our merch store: https://www.thebrinkmerch.com/ Chapter 00:00 David Draiman On Speaking Up 02:58 Why October 7th Changed Everything 05:56 Growing Up With Anti-Semitism 09:27 How Jewish Identity Shaped Disturbed 16:16 Jews, Division & Survival 19:43 Hollywood, Music & Israel 25:49 Israel, Gaza & Legitimate Criticism 33:15 Fighting Back Against Anti-Israel Narratives 34:57 Why Celebrities Won’t Debate Him 40:57 “I Wrote F*** Hamas” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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