At the UN General Assembly next week, Ukraine's President Zelensky will present his 'plan for victory' to world leaders. Key to that victory, he thinks, is being allowed to shoot British-made 'Storm Shadow' missiles into Russian territory. Keir Starmer agrees, Joe Biden does not. Is Biden right to be worried - or is this all part of a wider plan by the president to bring us closer to some kind of peace?

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Guest: Mark Urban, writer and columnist, The Sunday Times. 

Host: Luke Jones. 

Clips: BFBS Forces News, CBC, FT.

Episode artwork: Getty Images 

Further reading: Are Russia and Ukraine edging towards an endgame?

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